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Posted on 5/22/22 at 6:50 pm to Robin Masters
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Eliminate voter fraud and we’d see Republicans win 10-20% more elections.
You are way low.
You mean eliminate the massive fraud and go back to the moderate fraud case eve had in the past.
Posted on 5/22/22 at 6:50 pm to deeprig9
quote:
Another question- what were Michigan's rules on ballot muling?
looks like they allow certain people to turn in a mail-in ballots.
ballotpedia
Posted on 5/22/22 at 6:51 pm to deeprig9
Michigan allows ballot harvesting by a family member, a person living in the same residence as the voter, or by an election clerk assistant.
There is no limit placed on the number of times an approved person may carry mailed ballots to the clerk on behalf of voters who elect to use a mailed ballot.
What I understand from the law itself is that harvested ballots must be returned to the clerk or to a clerk’s assistant.
So, even though ballot harvesting is legal in Michigan, it doesn’t appear as though dropping those harvested ballots into a ballot drop box is.
Read the law and see if you come away with the same understanding I did. I could be wrong for sure.
Michigan Ballot Harvesting Law
Ballotpedia has a page about ballot harvesting laws by state. It’s pretty helpful.
Ballotpedia - Ballot Harvesting Laws by State
There is no limit placed on the number of times an approved person may carry mailed ballots to the clerk on behalf of voters who elect to use a mailed ballot.
What I understand from the law itself is that harvested ballots must be returned to the clerk or to a clerk’s assistant.
So, even though ballot harvesting is legal in Michigan, it doesn’t appear as though dropping those harvested ballots into a ballot drop box is.
Read the law and see if you come away with the same understanding I did. I could be wrong for sure.
Michigan Ballot Harvesting Law
Ballotpedia has a page about ballot harvesting laws by state. It’s pretty helpful.
Ballotpedia - Ballot Harvesting Laws by State
Posted on 5/22/22 at 6:54 pm to NC_Tigah
If they were an election clerk or assistant, why would they need to use a drop box? Just deliver the ballots to an actual polling station.
Posted on 5/22/22 at 6:55 pm to You_R_Here
quote:
Michigan allows ballot harvesting by a family member, a person living in the same residence as the voter, or by an election clerk assistant.
so how do they control this much leeway. In other words, who is the guaranteer of the ballots and the person dropping them?
This post was edited on 5/22/22 at 7:00 pm
Posted on 5/22/22 at 6:58 pm to TidenUP
quote:The polling stations aren't open since it isn't election day? Likewise the election assistant could just be a deputized person in a nursing home with no real business at the county clerk's office.
If they were an election clerk or assistant, why would they need to use a drop box? Just deliver the ballots to an actual polling station.
Posted on 5/22/22 at 7:00 pm to mmcgrath
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Likewise the election assistant could just be a deputized person in a nursing home with no real business at the county clerk's office.
Lunacy
Posted on 5/22/22 at 7:02 pm to themunch
There needs to be some method of accountability.
This is defeating the purpose of voter registration laws and implementation.
This is defeating the purpose of voter registration laws and implementation.
This post was edited on 5/22/22 at 7:03 pm
Posted on 5/22/22 at 7:03 pm to ThatTahoeOverThere
If democrats are going to do it, republicans need to fall in line. But, we all know know the republicans would get prosecuted to the fullest.
Posted on 5/22/22 at 7:04 pm to deeprig9
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We've yet to see any video of the mules going to multiple drop boxes on video.
You must not have watched 2000 mules because there is many videos of the same people going to drop boxes all over
Posted on 5/22/22 at 7:06 pm to mmcgrath
quote:FFS
What type of link is that?
Is it the same woman, same car at four different times or not?
You stupid son of a #^%*.
Posted on 5/22/22 at 7:06 pm to themunch
quote:There is accountability. All of the election workers are registered / sworn in by the clerks and are required by law to display their credentials, which clearly this lady is doing. I bet that the people with the video could identify and verify the official in an hour if they wanted to.
There needs to be some method of accountability.
This is defeating the purpose of voter registration laws and implementation.
Elections have been carried out for over a hundred years in such a manner. Being paranoid about everything isn't a solution.
Posted on 5/22/22 at 7:08 pm to Miketheseventh
quote:Clearly YOU didn't watch it.
You must not have watched 2000 mules because there is many videos of the same people going to drop boxes all over
Posted on 5/22/22 at 7:08 pm to mmcgrath
quote:Swallowing a camel (Russian Collusion) but straining at a gnat (harvest balloting). Completely dishonest.
mmcgrath
Posted on 5/22/22 at 7:10 pm to Wolfhound45
quote:Apparently. Some nefarious woman who is clearly displaying her credentials at all times like a criminal would, huh? This woman could be identified with a tiny bit of work by the people pushing this nonsense, but since it is all legit they would rather show you pixilated and low resolution images.
FFS
Is it the same woman, same car at four different times or not?
You stupid son of a #^%*.
Posted on 5/22/22 at 7:13 pm to mmcgrath
quote:*Hillary Clinton and the 2016 election have entered the chat.
Elections have been carried out for over a hundred years in such a manner. Being paranoid about everything isn't a solution.
CBS News - Hillary Rodham Clinton: Trump is a "corrupt human tornado"
YouTube - Hillary Clinton: “Trump knows he is an illegitimate president” (3:37)
Seriously, shut up.
Posted on 5/22/22 at 7:14 pm to mmcgrath
Just admit it. You still believe in Russian Collusion that could not be proven but will ignore any evidence presented to you of ballot harvesting.
Posted on 5/22/22 at 7:20 pm to themunch
I didn’t see anything in Michigan’s ballot harvesting law addressing that.
That’s an important detail I’d like clarified, too.
My main concern regarding the video is that the law says harvested ballots are to be brought to the clerk or a clerk’s assistant.
Assuming the person is delivering legally harvested ballots, it STILL seems like those ballots are being delivered to a location (ballot drop box) not approved by Michigan law.
Again, I could be wrong.
I’d like a more knowledgeable person’s interpretation of the law.
That’s an important detail I’d like clarified, too.
My main concern regarding the video is that the law says harvested ballots are to be brought to the clerk or a clerk’s assistant.
Assuming the person is delivering legally harvested ballots, it STILL seems like those ballots are being delivered to a location (ballot drop box) not approved by Michigan law.
Again, I could be wrong.
I’d like a more knowledgeable person’s interpretation of the law.
Posted on 5/22/22 at 7:36 pm to mmcgrath
Weren’t you in the other thread bitching about the lack of video?
You’re a joke
You’re a joke
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