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Rustbelt poll: Trump and Biden TIED at 49%!!!
Posted on 9/18/20 at 3:44 pm
Posted on 9/18/20 at 3:44 pm
Poll: Biden Ahead in Rust Belt, But Presidential Race a Deadlock Among ‘Likely Voters’
This is the poll by the very thorough and transparent Rich Barris. If you haven't been following his youtube or twitter accounts, you should. He breaks everything down nicely and explains how the methodology is flawed with all the university polls. He also doesn't sunshine pump for Trump; he tells it like he sees it.
In regards to congress, they find:
This is why the Dems are doing the full court press on COVID. It is their only winning campaign issue, so they are doing their best to make this election about that.
None of this addresses the stealing of an election though. These crappy rulings allowing voter intimidation and interference by the Dems with mail ins can make all of this obsolete.
This is the poll by the very thorough and transparent Rich Barris. If you haven't been following his youtube or twitter accounts, you should. He breaks everything down nicely and explains how the methodology is flawed with all the university polls. He also doesn't sunshine pump for Trump; he tells it like he sees it.
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Vice President Joe Biden holds an overall 6-point lead (46.7% to 40.7%) among registered voters in the Rust Belt (Iowa, Michigan, Minnesota, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin) according to an Epoch Times poll conducted by Big Data Poll between Sept. 11-15.
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However, among likely voters with no undecideds, the race between the two candidates tightens to nearly dead-even (48.7% to 48.6%), fueled by greater enthusiasm among Trump voters.
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The difference in enthusiasm for the candidates is significant. Trump leads 52.9 percent to 45.0 percent among the 51.2 percent of Rust Belt voters who say they are “Extremely Enthusiastic” about voting for their preferred candidate. The president enjoys a double-digit advantage—60.5 percent to 44.9 percent—among likely voters who are extremely enthusiastic.
In regards to congress, they find:
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Democrats hold a 4.3-percentage point lead on the Generic Congressional Ballot among all registered voters in the Rust Belt, 45.8 percent to 41.3 percent. Among likely voters with no undecideds, the Democratic lead holds, but the margin tightens to 1.4 percentage points—48.1 percent to 46.7 percent.
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More voters cited the “Economy and Jobs” as the issue most important to their vote in November at 33.8 percent, beating out “coronavirus” at 22.9 percent, “Healthcare” at 19.2 percent, and “Policing and Crime” at 8.5 percent. Notably, policing and crime is cited by a larger percentage in Minnesota at 10.2 percent.
When asked to rank each issue from the most to least important, the economy and jobs remain at the top and coronavirus falls to third behind healthcare at second most important. While remaining in fourth, the rank distribution score for policing and crime is on the rise.
This is why the Dems are doing the full court press on COVID. It is their only winning campaign issue, so they are doing their best to make this election about that.
None of this addresses the stealing of an election though. These crappy rulings allowing voter intimidation and interference by the Dems with mail ins can make all of this obsolete.
This post was edited on 9/18/20 at 4:23 pm
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Posted on 9/18/20 at 3:47 pm to Midget Death Squad
This is good news for Joe Biden when the secret Biden voters who are afraid to voice their support out of fear of increasing right wing violence are factored in.
-MSNBC
-MSNBC
Posted on 9/18/20 at 3:59 pm to Midget Death Squad
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This is why the Dems are doing the half court press on COVID. It is their only winning campaign issue, so they are doing their best to make this election about that.
And intentionally hiding any positive developments.
Posted on 9/18/20 at 4:00 pm to Midget Death Squad
Any particular reason Illinois and Indiana weren’t included in a Rust Belt poll?
Posted on 9/18/20 at 4:02 pm to Indefatigable
Probably because they are solidly Biden and Trump respectively. I believe he focused on the swing States only.
Posted on 9/18/20 at 4:02 pm to Indefatigable
I would think those are considered too blue and too red respectively to be relevant
Beat me to it by a second lol
Beat me to it by a second lol
This post was edited on 9/18/20 at 4:04 pm
Posted on 9/18/20 at 4:03 pm to Midget Death Squad
The guy who produced that poll said Trump was way up in IA and OH. They are included in the poll, which means Trump is not doing well enough yet in MN, MI, WI and PA.
Posted on 9/18/20 at 4:03 pm to Midget Death Squad
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This is why the Dems are doing the half court press on COVID
That isn’t the phrase
Posted on 9/18/20 at 4:08 pm to Midget Death Squad
I don’t believe any of this. Rust belt voters are not suddenly abandoning Trump in favor of the guy who spent his entire career outsourcing their livelihood. And if they are, so be it. I have no sympathy for them and won’t ever again.
The real threat is dem cheating. It’s happening.
The real threat is dem cheating. It’s happening.
Posted on 9/18/20 at 4:16 pm to Jake88
He says Michigan and Wisconsin or where Biden is ahead. He says Trump is ahead in Minnesota and he thinks it is tied in Pennsylvania
Posted on 9/18/20 at 4:18 pm to Midget Death Squad
Is that from the article you posted? Those comments
Posted on 9/18/20 at 4:21 pm to Midget Death Squad
That means trump is ahead
Posted on 9/18/20 at 4:22 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
You can disbelieve it all you want but he says the data shows suburban white women are where Trump is losing votes. Trump is gaining with black and Latino though. Putting blinders on and just believing what you want to believe is not going to yield any positive results.
Particularly in Wisconsin he says that voting population is buying the democratic push of returning class and decorum to the presidency. He says they are very unique in this being important to them.
He also says that this is similar to 2016 in that the closer we get to election day the numbers trend further to trumps favor. He’s only speaking about if the election were held right now, but he likes the direction this is heading for Trump
Posted on 9/18/20 at 4:29 pm to Midget Death Squad
He’s saying the exact same thing that was said in 2016. Trump is too crass. White women wont vote for him. The only difference being they are now acknowledging he is gaining with minorities.
If we are to believe this poll, it suggests that Trump should change his approach and become exactly what the democrats want and the opposite of what won him the White House in the first place.
Heck of a strategy.
If we are to believe this poll, it suggests that Trump should change his approach and become exactly what the democrats want and the opposite of what won him the White House in the first place.
Heck of a strategy.
Posted on 9/18/20 at 4:31 pm to Midget Death Squad
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He also says that this is similar to 2016 in that the closer we get to election day the numbers trend further to trumps favor.
I agree with this. If the Election were today (which is what polls actually measure) AND the people responding to these polls were representative of the electorate...Trump would likely lose.
The problem is that the election is NOT today, and the people who respond to polls are NOT representative of the actual electorate.
Posted on 9/18/20 at 4:33 pm to Midget Death Squad
He didn't break it down by state?
Posted on 9/18/20 at 4:34 pm to Indefatigable
See this is where I'm confused what do y'all think will change now and until the election?
If anything Trump should be up now with the riots and protests that took place and how everyone stayed destroyed Dems internal polling.
Now that they've stopped and we are 45 days out how does that benefit trump as time goes on and voters forget or block out something that happened months ago?
If anything Trump should be up now with the riots and protests that took place and how everyone stayed destroyed Dems internal polling.
Now that they've stopped and we are 45 days out how does that benefit trump as time goes on and voters forget or block out something that happened months ago?
Posted on 9/18/20 at 4:34 pm to Jake88
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He didn't break it down by state?
Apparently not, making it rather useless.
This post was edited on 9/18/20 at 4:35 pm
Posted on 9/18/20 at 4:34 pm to upgrayedd
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This is good news for Joe Biden when the secret Biden voters who are afraid to voice their support out of fear of increasing right wing violence are factored in.
6ou joke but including iowa and ohio in this is very good for Biden. Trump isn't losing either state so if it's tied with those two being included that isn't positive for Trump
Posted on 9/18/20 at 4:36 pm to Magician2
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See this is where I'm confused what do y'all think will change now and until the election?
Nothing substantive. It’s that people who respond to polls are not the same people who actually show up and vote. It’s very easy to say you’ll vote for someone. This applies in particular to younger people. They ALWAYS poll dramatically to the left. But they don’t actually go and vote.
This post was edited on 9/18/20 at 4:37 pm
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