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re: Russia or Ukraine shoots down Malaysia Airlines plane carrying 295

Posted on 7/17/14 at 11:15 am to
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
127242 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 11:15 am to
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Malaysia airlines is a far west airline.

"east"
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
56332 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 11:15 am to
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Ukrainian minister is saying it was militants that shot it down according to MSN homepage right now.



I believe Geraldo's story.

Russia gave high tech SAMs to pro russian militants, an incompetent militant shot at passenger plane with these weapons.
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
56332 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 11:16 am to
thank you russian sorry about that
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73540 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 11:16 am to
Ukrainian cargo aircraft shotdown on Monday, a SU-25 fighter yesterday, 777 today. Russians seem to be getting their groove on.
Posted by BeaverPRO
Tampa
Member since Aug 2009
16252 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 11:17 am to
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#Breaking: Reuters reports that its correspondent in the region has confirmed spotting debris of #MH17 and dead bodies.
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 11:17 am to
So is it a confirmed SA-17 or what? I'll check out Ukraine's OOB to see what they have.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
28719 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 11:18 am to
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What will escalate things is that a passenger plane was shot down over a war zone.


Odds are the missile was fired from Russian territory
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73540 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 11:18 am to
SA-11?
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 11:18 am to
finally those greedy capitalist pigs will pay for their crimes...ay comrades?!
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
127242 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 11:18 am to
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Ex KGB taking over for yeltsin?
Never forget...there is no such thing as ex-KGB. I learned that lesson very early during my work in Russia.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
127242 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 11:20 am to
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I wonder what Obama will do or say about this..



It doesn't matter, you'll hate him anyway.
So he should say nothing about it???
Posted by constant cough
Lafayette
Member since Jun 2007
44788 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 11:20 am to
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What will escalate things is that a passenger plane was shot down over a war zone.



Why was a passenger plane even flying over a war zone? Seems like there would be better routes to take.
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
56332 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 11:21 am to
fox news calls it a book SAM

check the OT thread the weapon is in the OP
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 11:22 am to
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SA-11?


Not an AD expert, but it could be either, right. Initial reporting is just that it's a Buk system (haven't seen whether is M1 or M2.
This post was edited on 7/17/14 at 11:29 am
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
56332 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 11:22 am to
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Why was a passenger plane even flying over a war zone? Seems like there would be better routes to take.



here is what I think happened.

This plane lost contact is it began to cross into ukraine, sometime after that loss of contact the plane would have turned to avoid the war zone, because it lost contact it didn't turn and continued straight which brought them right over a war zone, it got shot down.
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 11:23 am to
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fox news calls it a book SAM


SA-17 is the NATO designation for later variations of the Buk system.
This post was edited on 7/17/14 at 11:27 am
Posted by BeaverPRO
Tampa
Member since Aug 2009
16252 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 11:23 am to

Boeing 777 passenger airplane of Malaysian Airlines crashed on the territory of Ukraine in 60 km from the Russian border, a source in air traffic control circles told ITAR-TASS.



The source noted that the flight was supposed to enter the Russian air space at 17:20 Moscow standard time (13:20 UTC).



“However, it fell down in 60 km from the border; the plane’s emergency location beacon went off,” the source said.
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
56332 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 11:25 am to
update this may have been the path of the flight plan

LINK

edit: it went more north than previous planes did.
This post was edited on 7/17/14 at 11:27 am
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73540 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 11:28 am to
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Not an AD expert, but it could be either, right. Initial reporting is just that it's a Buk system (haven't seen whether is M2 or M3.
Fact.
Posted by dante
Kingwood, TX
Member since Mar 2006
10669 posts
Posted on 7/17/14 at 11:29 am to
Has it been confirmed it was shot down and not just a crash?
This post was edited on 7/17/14 at 11:30 am
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