re: Russia or Ukraine shoots down Malaysia Airlines plane carrying 295

Basically, the separatists have the crash site. No one can confirm if they have black box.

So lets say that Russia did take this plane down and it wasn't the separatists... What would the motivation be?

I can't think of any logical reason that would other than it was an accident and they thought they were firing on Ukranian aircraft. But why would they be firing when they have the separatists to do that for them?

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Basically, the separatists have the crash site. No one can confirm if they have black box.

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And they are not letting investigators on scene

but released a press statement saying they will.

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The shoot down has nothing to do with Obama. The response has everything to do with him and I don't think he has the courage to do anything of significance if it was the Russians.

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what would you do?

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The shoot down has nothing to do with Obama. The response has everything to do with him and I don't think he has the courage to do anything of significance if it was the Russians.

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Again, what would you do? What might we have done historically?

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What would you suggest, young bastion of intemperance? What would our government have done, historically, if Russians had shot down a plane carrying US citizens?

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Korean Air Lines Flight 007, also known as KAL 007 or KE007, was a Korean Air Lines Boeing 747 civilian airliner shot down by a Soviet Su-15TM fighter on September 1, 1983, near Moneron Island just west of Sakhalin island. 269 passengers and crew, including US congressman Larry McDonald, were aboard KAL 007; there were no known survivors. An official investigation concluded that the course deviation was likely caused by pilot error in configuring their air navigation system.

We didn't do anything then.

fricking crazy that there had never been incidents of magnitude involving 777's and Malaysia air has 2 of them within 4 months.

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Much more than removing our Jupiter missiles in Turkey.

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Thank god you are not my Commander and Chief.

Obama, Bush etc are in a tough stop here but keep being a hack.

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The shoot down has nothing to do with Obama. The response has everything to do with him and I don't think he has the courage to do anything of significance if it was the Russians.

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I know it is a waste of my energy to type this, but... Folks, 290+ bodies are strewn across fields. Someone's loved one is there, dead through no fault of their own. Just once, could we tamp down the rhetoric until we actually know some facts. Blame can be assessed when facts are known.

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Korean Air Lines Flight 007, also known as KAL 007 or KE007, was a Korean Air Lines Boeing 747 civilian airliner shot down by a Soviet Su-15TM fighter on September 1, 1983, near Moneron Island just west of Sakhalin island. 269 passengers and crew, including US congressman Larry McDonald, were aboard KAL 007; there were no known survivors. An official investigation concluded that the course deviation was likely caused by pilot error in configuring their air navigation system.

We didn't do anything then.

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Bro, seriously.

Well since you sprung my trap, 62 Americans died on that flight, including McDonald. And that one originated in the US. And the shootdown was intentional because the Soviets were convinced the aircraft was collecting intelligence. And after the fact, according to Soviet information declassified in the early 1990s, they harrassed our Navy while pretending to conduct a thorough search for wreckage and materials.