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re: Rush Limbaugh pouts about potential black James Bond

Posted on 12/26/14 at 11:22 pm to
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 12/26/14 at 11:22 pm to
quote:

Some more words of wisdom:

Don't hesitate; look before you leap
The devil's in the details; don't sweat the small things
Sticks and stones may breaks my bones but words will never hurt me; the pen is mightier than the sword


Since your point is that there are always words of wisdom that contradict other words of wisdom, what words of wisdom contradict "A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush"?
This post was edited on 12/26/14 at 11:26 pm
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Member since Dec 2010
134141 posts
Posted on 12/26/14 at 11:27 pm to
"Resting on one's laurels"

This is especially perilous when it comes to business and marketing. If you're not innovating/growing/trying new things, you are stagnant.
This post was edited on 12/26/14 at 11:30 pm
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 12/26/14 at 11:37 pm to
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"Resting on one's laurels"

This is especially perilous when it comes to business and marketing. If you're not innovating/growing/trying new things, you are stagnant.


Fail.

"Resting on one's laurels" does not contradict "A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush".

"A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush" means you should not try to double what you already have by doing something that will result in you having nothing.
This post was edited on 12/26/14 at 11:41 pm
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 12/26/14 at 11:49 pm to
quote:

"A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush" means you should not try to double what you already have by doing something that will result in you having nothing.


Incorrect.

The phrase means a sure thing is better than nothing. Nothing about "doubling." Not even insinuating that you'll end up with nothing. It simply alludes to risk-aversion. You can't even understand your own phrase.

And also, "resting on one's laurels" is indeed contradictory. It means that maintaining status quo based upon past successes is a bad thing.

And as I have already pointed out, simply maintaining is kryptonite for business/brand growth. Being risk-averse (I.e., playing it safe) is the wrong way to conduct business affairs. History is littered with examples of brands that fell by the wayside and/or were significantly marginalized by thinking "a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush."

Clearly, you are out of both your professional and literary depth.
Posted by BuckyBadger
Member since Aug 2014
740 posts
Posted on 12/27/14 at 4:36 am to
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Sorry but when I read your post my old and slow computer had only posted my quote so I didn't respond because I thought you were agreeing with me. I should have known better. If that's what the people who make the movie think then it may be "as logical as it gets" but it's still illogical.
ok. Got it. You are a straight racist and illogical.

You are a sad and pathetic old man. Thank god your type is dying off.
Posted by Vegas Bengal
Member since Feb 2008
26344 posts
Posted on 12/27/14 at 10:45 am to
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I am certainly not surprised that you are on top of this. If I ever need any info on a lavish broadway musical, I know where I can turn.


My expert knowledge knows no boundaries.
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 12/27/14 at 10:50 am to
quote:

Sticks and stones may breaks my bones but words will never hurt me


Saying "Merry Christmas" can get you killed.

LINK
Posted by Vegas Bengal
Member since Feb 2008
26344 posts
Posted on 12/27/14 at 10:52 am to
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Using that illogic we should change every iconic fictional white character to a black character simply because they have been portrayed as white people for decades.


You'd be correct if the logic you're arguing against states that to make money, everyone must do the exact same thing. Of course that's your straw man argument and was not my assertion. I gave you an example of how an old story was revamped by changing the race of the main characters and was financially successful as a reason producers may change Bond. You don't like being proven wrong so you changed my point. fail.

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It's all about forcing TV, movie and play producers to hire more blacks for starring roles.
wrong. It's all about making money. This new rant of yours is but one of many derived from your paranoid delusion that there is a liberal conspiracy to all things you find objectionable.
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 12/27/14 at 11:15 am to
You people are the idiots. Could it possibly be that he was lamenting the incessant drive for PC'ism? WE MUST make a bond for every race. We MUST include everybody. WE MUST not hurt anybody's feelings. WE MUST change characters from decades of books and movies so we can appease the easily offended.

I'm pretty sick of it myself. Why can't people of any race enjoy a fricking movie dynasty and leave it the frick alone? What is the neverending need to make sure everyone isn't offended by inconsequential shite? I'm pissed off that they didn't pick Stephen Merchant to play SHAFT. Should SHAFT be changed to fit my emotional need for inclusion?

Posted by Vegas Bengal
Member since Feb 2008
26344 posts
Posted on 12/27/14 at 11:22 am to
So you agree with him that the producers will risk the $200 million budget on the next film simply to appease people who are upset there is no black Bond... Even though there is no evidence that such people exist?

I think the real question for you and Dawgie is why does it upset you so much to tweak a character by casting a black actor.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467369 posts
Posted on 12/27/14 at 11:25 am to
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Could it possibly be that he was lamenting the incessant drive for PC'ism? WE MUST make a bond for every race. We MUST include everybody. WE MUST not hurt anybody's feelings. WE MUST change characters from decades of books and movies so we can appease the easily offended.

i think a black bond is due to availability of bond candidates and trying something different for financial gain

same as bl'annie

the number of black audience who will go see it to "support black culture" will probably outweigh the traditionalists who won't go

aka, more money
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
116802 posts
Posted on 12/27/14 at 11:30 am to
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I'm pretty sick of it myself. Why can't people of any race enjoy a fricking movie dynasty and leave it the frick alone? What is the neverending need to make sure everyone isn't offended by inconsequential shite? I'm pissed off that they didn't pick Stephen Merchant to play SHAFT. Should SHAFT be changed to fit my emotional need for inclusion?


I hear ya. So, is it OK for TV to start showing reruns of Amos and Andy? What about Tarzan?
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 12/27/14 at 11:52 am to
quote:

So you agree with him that the producers will risk the $200 million budget on the next film simply to appease people who are upset there is no black Bond... Even though there is no evidence that such people exist?

I think the real question for you and Dawgie is why does it upset you so much to tweak a character by casting a black actor.


It doesn't tweak me. I can see the guy playing Bond, and quite well. I like the current Bond though. You can't deny that a PC push would be the reason for ousting the current Bond in favor of a black guy. Bond has been around for many decades, and shouldn't be messed with. The same goes for Blade, although that hasn't been around as long.
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 12/27/14 at 11:56 am to
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i think a black bond is due to availability of bond candidates and trying something different for financial gain

same as bl'annie

the number of black audience who will go see it to "support black culture" will probably outweigh the traditionalists who won't go

aka, more money


If that's the case, then the Bond franchise is in trouble. I thought the last few Bonds sucked, and this new guy revived the interest. Unless that guy retires, they shouldn't frick with a good thing.
Posted by LSUandAU
Key West, FL & Malibu (L.A.), CA
Member since Apr 2009
5160 posts
Posted on 12/27/14 at 5:50 pm to
Bond is a white guy from the UK...he is not black. Rush is right...political correctness wrong!
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
74495 posts
Posted on 12/27/14 at 6:04 pm to
People argue about who should play who all the time.
Perhaps its Rush cashing in on those who don't seem to remember this.
Posted by socraticsilence
Member since Dec 2013
1347 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 1:21 am to
I'm sure it's been pointed out earlier in this thread but Rush et al don't seem to have any problem with a White Moses in Exodus.
Posted by TT9
Seychelles
Member since Sep 2008
90708 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 6:47 am to
Loved that parody they use to do on Imus in the morning about the fatass.

"All my friends have white faces" rip off of I got friends in low places.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27877 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 7:43 am to
I don't think they should cast a black man as Bond just as I don't think they should cast a woman as Batman or a man as Wonder Woman.

It's just unnecessarily changing a character that we're used to.

I didn't even like Q in Skyfall being that young hipster douche instead of the old man.
This post was edited on 12/29/14 at 7:52 am
Posted by son of arlo
State of Innocence
Member since Sep 2013
4577 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 7:59 am to
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I didn't even like Q in Skyfall being that young hipster douche instead of the old man.


I'd pay to see Cheech as 007, and Chong as Q just for the moment when Bond cracks the door on the DB4 and smoke billows out. All the Q-related weapons would be disguised as doobies in some form, i.e. a giant doobie RPG. It would help erase all those dreadful Roger Moore Bond movies.
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