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Rule by Monarchy or Meritocracy: An Observation

Posted on 6/3/18 at 3:13 pm
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 6/3/18 at 3:13 pm
Growing up, I was taught to believe that the Founding Fathers believe in a nation of meritocracy. The definition has evolved over time, but their original premise still holds today.

I believe this is what makes the USA so unique. It gives us a form of individualism and adaptability that our western predecessors lacked.


I have become disturbed over the infatuation some people have over British royals. Perhaps I am overthinking this situation. It could just be celebrity praise and self-insert fantasy, which is freedom of choice. I simply feel that many Americans do not realize the price of independence, nor appreciate the golden rule of this country: that a peasant can become his own king through hard work and ingenuity.
Do people really want a soft monarchy to rule them? Where have we gone wrong to perpuate this foolish ideaology?

Why do people not respect our institutions. They have flaws, but they not any worse than other western countires (save for the family courts, but thats a different rant). And no other systems has
succeeded in dealing with sins of the past than the United States.

I AM A PROUD AMERICAN. We have to ensure our Republic works in order to maintain it. Giving away freedoms in exchange for security will only result in servitude.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162231 posts
Posted on 6/3/18 at 3:15 pm to
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I have become disturbed over the infatuation some people have over British royals. Perhaps I am overthinking this situation. I

Other than the attention from the wedding where are you seeing this?
Posted by DaGarun
Smashville
Member since Nov 2007
26185 posts
Posted on 6/3/18 at 3:18 pm to
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Other than the attention from the wedding where are you seeing this?


I was wondering the same. The British royal family is completely irrelevant in matters of anything but the social pages
Posted by DrunkerThanThou
Unfortunately Mississippi
Member since Feb 2013
2846 posts
Posted on 6/3/18 at 3:48 pm to
Many of the ridiculousness that we see play out today is a symptom of just how successful and prosperous our country is. In America one can put in relatively low effort and maintain a quality of life far beyond our ancestors could have imagined. Think about it, our poor people are fat. When in the entirety of human history has that been the case? As a result the massive drive and energy to survive which evolved in the past gets diverted elsewhere. That takes the form of histrionic political activism (on both sides), celebrity worship, sports fanaticism, etc. I highly doubt people actually want a monarchy but you do have a point that we take for granted just how damn good we all have it here and now.

Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71438 posts
Posted on 6/3/18 at 3:53 pm to
You can make a hell of an argument that the Bushes, Clintons, and hell the Kennedys were a monarchy of sorts.
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37655 posts
Posted on 6/3/18 at 3:58 pm to
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You can make a hell of an argument that the Bushes, Clintons, and hell the Kennedys were a monarchy of sorts.



Wich was one of the reasons I ws glad that Trump one. He killed the Bush and Cinton dynasties.....of course we have Pincess Ivanka.
Posted by thejudge
Westlake, LA
Member since Sep 2009
14062 posts
Posted on 6/3/18 at 4:33 pm to
I can't believe in. Place where they've got enough shite that needs paying for they'd spend $50 million for a wedding for someone who's like 5 or 6 spots away from the throne.

I'd be mad as hell about that waste of $$$.

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Posted by More&Les
Member since Nov 2012
14684 posts
Posted on 6/3/18 at 6:17 pm to
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I have become disturbed over the infatuation some people have over British royals.


This tells me that you have no ideal what you are talking about. The British Royals have zero to do with how the commonwealth is governed
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55496 posts
Posted on 6/3/18 at 6:18 pm to
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This tells me that you have no ideal what you are talking about. The British Royals have zero to do with how the commonwealth is governed



Oddly enough, the Commonwealth has deteriorated more with Parliamentarian rule than with royals.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20901 posts
Posted on 6/3/18 at 6:21 pm to
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The British Royals have zero to do with how the commonwealth is governed


The queen does have a fair amount of legal power she doesnt use.

Examples include Royal Assent, her perogative to choose a governor general, and her complete control of the militaries of the commonwealth countries as commander in chief of the armed forces of her United Kingdoms.

Eta: not to mention the ducal rights over the Duchies of Cornwall and Lancaster.
This post was edited on 6/3/18 at 6:22 pm
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55496 posts
Posted on 6/3/18 at 6:26 pm to
She technically has them, but I'm pretty sure people would go apeshit if she actually exercised them. Technically, she can dissolve Parliament, but that just won't happen.
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