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re: Rubio: “Have to reexamine the value of NATO and alliances for our country.”
Posted on 4/1/26 at 6:36 am to hawgfaninc
Posted on 4/1/26 at 6:36 am to hawgfaninc
Now kick out the UN.
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Posted on 4/1/26 at 6:36 am to hawgfaninc
When was the last time they were allowed to use a US base for an operation we opposed?
It seems like he's misusing the term one-way Street
And NATO is a defensive alliance and this was an act of US aggression
He's all over the place
It seems like he's misusing the term one-way Street
And NATO is a defensive alliance and this was an act of US aggression
He's all over the place
Posted on 4/1/26 at 6:37 am to hawgfaninc
The proverbial writing is on the wall.
Trump has said several times that the US will remember how our "allies " weren't willing to help.... "Exit Stage Left" is coming!
Trump has said several times that the US will remember how our "allies " weren't willing to help.... "Exit Stage Left" is coming!
Posted on 4/1/26 at 6:38 am to SlowFlowPro
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When was the last time they were allowed to use a US base for an operation we opposed?
I give up.... When?
Posted on 4/1/26 at 6:41 am to lake chuck fan
I don't think we have ever allowed that
Posted on 4/1/26 at 6:41 am to hawgfaninc
Getting out of NATO is what ultimately is necessary to constrict the U.S. geopolitical footprint. It's the move that functionally contracts our tentacles and brings the U.S. back into our region. It could just be the necessary institutional catalyst for ending American empire and getting the United States out of future endless global policeman wars.
It will force other powers in the region, including in Europe, to either step up and fill the void or deal with the consequences. For the all the fear mongering and teeth gnashing whenever Trump has mentioned it in the past, it may be one of the most consequential actions to turning this country's direction around and preventing us from accelerating off the cliff with our global adventure seeking and policemanning while our debt balloons and our internal stability deteriorates. America does not need to be the hegemon anymore. Our founders never intended it to be so and our rise to hegemonic superpower has directly correlated with the internal rot in our system. It is simply not sustainable.
Now is the perfect time. We go out by pummelling the Middle East's premier sponsor of terrorism and crippling their nuclear program for the forseeable future and can point to NATO lack of cooperation as justification for the move.
This would be one of the greatest America First moves imaginable if Trump is able to pull it off and you can bet your arse it will be resisted with extreme ferocity by all elements of the deep state and neoconservatives and globalists. That will indicate that you are over the mark.
It will force other powers in the region, including in Europe, to either step up and fill the void or deal with the consequences. For the all the fear mongering and teeth gnashing whenever Trump has mentioned it in the past, it may be one of the most consequential actions to turning this country's direction around and preventing us from accelerating off the cliff with our global adventure seeking and policemanning while our debt balloons and our internal stability deteriorates. America does not need to be the hegemon anymore. Our founders never intended it to be so and our rise to hegemonic superpower has directly correlated with the internal rot in our system. It is simply not sustainable.
Now is the perfect time. We go out by pummelling the Middle East's premier sponsor of terrorism and crippling their nuclear program for the forseeable future and can point to NATO lack of cooperation as justification for the move.
This would be one of the greatest America First moves imaginable if Trump is able to pull it off and you can bet your arse it will be resisted with extreme ferocity by all elements of the deep state and neoconservatives and globalists. That will indicate that you are over the mark.
This post was edited on 4/1/26 at 6:46 am
Posted on 4/1/26 at 6:42 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:When was the last time they asked and we said no?
I don't think we have ever allowed that
This post was edited on 4/1/26 at 6:43 am
Posted on 4/1/26 at 6:45 am to FluffyBunnyFeet
Why remove the part about the objection? It's rather important.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 6:49 am to SlowFlowPro
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And NATO is a defensive alliance and this was an act of US aggression
Yeah, when France, Spain, and Italy don't want you using their airspace for an action, maybe there is a reason.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 7:03 am to Bunk Moreland
Just try to square this with Ukraine, which was an op we didn't object to officially (but caused years of melts no theme).
Imagine under Biden if Germany wanted to force us to use our bases over our objection and Biden permitted it. The melt would have been MASSIVE.
These people have no intellectual consistency
Imagine under Biden if Germany wanted to force us to use our bases over our objection and Biden permitted it. The melt would have been MASSIVE.
These people have no intellectual consistency
Posted on 4/1/26 at 7:06 am to SlowFlowPro
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Biden if Germany wanted to force us to use our bases over our objection and Biden permitted i
We lease the bases, they aren't "our" bases.Posted on 4/1/26 at 7:11 am to Bunk Moreland
Clearly, because France, Spain, and Italy have such military acumen that we definitely should listen to their objections schizo boy lol you are worse than a woman at changing opinions
Posted on 4/1/26 at 7:13 am to BHS78
I see that I hurt someone's feelings. Must be a blood sucker living of the DOJ stationed in Europe. But not in danger.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 7:16 am to SlowFlowPro
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Why remove the part about the objection? It's rather important.
Dude, you understood the question so just humor me.
You: "When was the last time they were allowed to use a US base for an operation we opposed?
Me: When is the last time this scenario actually came to pass? Has a NATO country ever asked us to use a US base for an operation and the US objected and denied the request? If yes, when? Which NATO country?
Posted on 4/1/26 at 7:16 am to MrLSU
quote:big booty latinas
Let's put those bases in Central and South America instead!
Posted on 4/1/26 at 7:18 am to hawgfaninc
Let's withdraw from NATO today 
Posted on 4/1/26 at 7:20 am to Bunk Moreland
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Yeah, when France, Spain, and Italy don't want you using their airspace for an action, maybe there is a reason.
Yeah, it's called "I'm scared shitless of what this horde of muslim migrants I've allowed into my country might do."
Posted on 4/1/26 at 7:22 am to hawgfaninc
Marco knows better. But not surprised to see him play along. His principles have taken a back seat in service to Trump.
Posted on 4/1/26 at 7:24 am to FluffyBunnyFeet
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Yeah, it's called "I'm scared shitless of what this horde of muslim migrants I've allowed into my country might do."
Posted on 4/1/26 at 7:26 am to Sput
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Lil Marco is becoming a dawg
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