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re: Ron DeSantis opens fire on Trump's character, chaotic leadership style.

Posted on 3/21/23 at 6:37 pm to
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
52390 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 6:37 pm to
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And if you vote GOPe, you might as well vote Democrat because you’re just voting for a uniparty that gives you an illusion of choice.

I remember George W Bush pushing a conservative agenda. I remember Reagan pursuing a VERY conservative agenda. Are they GOPe?
Posted by lsuguy84
Madisonville
Member since Feb 2009
26404 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 6:38 pm to
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Are they GOPe?

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George W Bush


Holy shite
Posted by Message Board User
Member since Dec 2006
6956 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 6:40 pm to
Over the past few months, Trump has attacked Youngkin, Kemp, and Desantis - the three most electorally successful GOP politicians.

At some point, GOP voters will need to decide if they want to win or hitch their wagon to a tree stump.
Posted by RedCali714
Costa Mesa, California
Member since Oct 2022
2027 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 6:40 pm to
Yes. Have you not paid attention?
Posted by RedCali714
Costa Mesa, California
Member since Oct 2022
2027 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 6:41 pm to
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Holy shite


Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 6:41 pm to
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Over the past few months, Trump has attacked Youngkin, Kemp, and Desantis - the three most electorally successful GOP politicians.



He feels threatened by them.

Posted by Figgy
CenCal
Member since May 2020
9787 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 6:49 pm to
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MAGA doesn't exist anymore It's about a man and nothing more


That’s what I’m worried about. It isn’t so much about policy but the man. That’s a dangerous road to go down.
Posted by Figgy
CenCal
Member since May 2020
9787 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 6:55 pm to
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I'll never vote for a GOP establishment candidate. I believe that there is absolutely zero difference between GOP establishment and Democrats.


I can tell you don’t live in California. If you did, you’d know the difference. What you’re doing is absolutely absurd and suicidal. But you don’t see it.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 6:55 pm to
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Nobody gives a shite about Trumps character.


I find it very hard to believe you are an attorney.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62114 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 6:57 pm to
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I remember Reagan pursuing a VERY conservative agenda. Are they GOPe?


Bush yes. He and those who propped him up are basically the beginning of the uniparty and MIC.

It’s grown since then. The frickers had the audacity to run and back Jeb fricking Bush.

Does this really need to be explained? You don’t recognize the gap between the party elites and the will of the people?
This post was edited on 3/21/23 at 7:03 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466944 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 6:58 pm to
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You don’t recognize the gap between the party elites and the will of the people?

Based on election data or what?
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62114 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 7:03 pm to
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Based on election data or what


You are asking for my evidence that there is a gap? Seriously?

How do you think Trump won in the first place?
Posted by Message Board User
Member since Dec 2006
6956 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 7:06 pm to
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How do you think Trump won in the first place?


He was up against the 2nd most disliked presidential candidate in history (the most disliked being Trump 2020).
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 7:09 pm to
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He was up against the 2nd most disliked presidential candidate in history (the most disliked being Trump 2020).



In 2016 Trump won WI by around 20k.

Ron Johnson got 70K+ more votes than Trump in that same election.

An argument can be made that 2016 Trump was #3 on the most disliked list.
Posted by Speckhunter2012
Lake Charles
Member since Dec 2012
8174 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 7:11 pm to
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quote:
You don’t recognize the gap between the party elites and the will of the people?

Based on election data or what?


LOL. Yeah, those states that shut down voting yet in the middle of the night hundreds of thousands to millions of votes come in for a Potato?

Those states that illegally changed election laws sans legislative approval?

How about 100 miles of a car parade in AZ for PDJT? How about many boat parades with thousands of participants for PDJT, even here in Lake Chuck in the hundreds of boats.

PDJT was up 600,000-800,000 THOUSAND votes when they shut PA down. You believe there were that many LEGAL ballots that came in for Potato.
Posted by Message Board User
Member since Dec 2006
6956 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 7:12 pm to
Exactly.

Trump got lucky in 2016 with the candidate quality of the opponent and vote distribution (winning the key states by about 100K).

And then MAGA got its arse kicked in 2018, 2020, and 2022.

And MAGA wants to tell me that Trump is some kind of winner.

But we know that winning isn't the objective of MAGA - it's the grift and the ability to play the victim:

VOTER FRAUD

DOMINION

RIGGED
Posted by Message Board User
Member since Dec 2006
6956 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 7:14 pm to
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How about 100 miles of a car parade in AZ for PDJT? How about many boat parades with thousands of participants for PDJT, even here in Lake Chuck in the hundreds of boats.


Car parades!!! Boat parades!!!

How could Trump have lost!!!???!??!?!?
Posted by Shiftyplus1
Regret nothing that made you smile
Member since Oct 2005
14281 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 7:16 pm to
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“You made a fatal error in your relationship with Donald Trump,” I suggested.

“What’s that?”

“You got too popular.”


The only thing Donny hates more than Hilary is legit competition. It actually scares him, and his ego can't take that.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 7:19 pm to
Johnson came very close to losing to a far left prog, think Maxine Waters with a dick, in a statewide race in 2022.

Know why? His support of Trump.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62114 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 7:19 pm to
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He was up against the 2nd most disliked presidential candidate in history (the most disliked being Trump 2020).




We are referencing the gap in the Republican Party. Trump is the result if a revolt against the GOP establishment. The concept of GOPe was born in 2016.

it’s crazy to me that you and SFP didn’t realize this and still don’t understand it.

It’s probably why y’all use the term cult so often.
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