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Schmelly
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Revisionist History: for all u “proven to work” jacklegs
Compliments of Diamond & Silk

Whatever happened to If you’re not sick, don’t wear the mask
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CDawson
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re: Revisionist History: for all u “proven to work” jacklegs
Please send this link to the Comrade in the Governor's mansion.


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frogglet
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re: Revisionist History: for all u “proven to work” jacklegs
They were wrong? Before the CDC did an about-face I was calling them idiots for not recommending masks. The evidence out of Asia was already clear.


Antonio Moss
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re: Revisionist History: for all u “proven to work” jacklegs
The WHO and the CDC already came out and admitted that they lied in March in order to protect PPE stocks for healthcare workers.

And they wonder why no one believes them.


Schmelly
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re: Revisionist History: for all u “proven to work” jacklegs
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evidence out of Asia


Lol


frogglet
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As soon as I figured out you people actually don’t know how to think critically it all started making sense. You can’t look at evidence. You need someone you trust to tell you masks are effective.


Schmelly
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re: Revisionist History: for all u “proven to work” jacklegs
You people!!!!!!?????? lil bit racist huh? It’s the liberal way


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the808bass
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re: Revisionist History: for all u “proven to work” jacklegs
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Should I wear a mask to protect myself from influenza?

Answer From Pritish K. Tosh, M.D.

In some cases, wearing a mask might help protect you from the human influenza A and B viruses — the ones responsible for most seasonal outbreaks of flu (influenza). But the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) generally suggests that only health care workers who are in close contact with people with influenza wear masks. The CDC doesn't recommend that people in public areas wear masks to protect themselves from influenza.

If you have influenza and need to leave your home, such as to go to a doctor's appointment, you can wear a mask, which may help reduce the spread of infection. The CDC also recommends avoiding contact with anyone if you're ill with influenza. Generally, taking precautions such as washing your hands regularly and avoiding people who are sick is considered the best mode of protection against influenza.

People who live in community housing — such as college dorms, nursing homes or military barracks — are at higher risk of influenza because they're in contact with more potentially infected people.

Influenza A and B viruses travel through the air in droplets when someone with the infection coughs, sneezes or talks. You can inhale the droplets directly, or you can pick up the germs from an object — such as a telephone or computer keyboard — and then transfer them to your eyes, nose or mouth.

For health care workers caring for people with influenza, surgical-type masks may help block respiratory droplets carrying influenza germs and transmission of germs from the hands to the mouth. However, in most cases, the best way to protect yourself from influenza is to follow preventive measures such as washing your hands often and getting your annual influenza vaccination.


February 14, 2020

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the808bass
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Unvaccinated Asymptomatic Persons, Including Those at High Risk for Influenza Complications

No recommendation can be made at this time for mask use in the community by asymptomatic persons, including those at high risk for complications, to prevent exposure to influenza viruses. If unvaccinated high-risk persons decide to wear masks during periods of increased respiratory illness activity in the community, it is likely they will need to wear them any time they are in a public place and when they are around other household members.


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the808bass
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But while mandatory in Wuhan, China, where the virus originated, a face mask is of little use, practically speaking, some experts say. "A surgical mask might provide some protection, but it's going to be very modest," said Dr. William Schaffner, a professor of preventive medicine at Vanderbilt University in Nashville, Tenn.

No definitive studies exist that prove masks prevent infections. Also, masks are designed for different purposes, and only some guard against infectious diseases.

Picking the right type of mask may be key, said one researcher.

"Several studies, including research from my group, show that if worn properly, masks can protect people in the community from respiratory illness, especially [those] in close contact with sick people," said Dr. Raina MacIntyre. She's head of biosecurity research at the University of New South Wales in Sydney, Australia.

MacIntyre's group did a study where parents of a sick child wore a mask at home. Those who wore the mask at all times were protected, she said.

"When infection is widespread, it may be useful," she noted.

However, images from China show people wearing face masks that aren't likely to help, MacIntyre said.

"I recommend disposable masks," she said. "The cloth masks used commonly in China may not be protective. We did a trial of these, compared to disposable masks, and wearers had a higher risk of infection. This may be because the cloth masks are not washed regularly and may retain moisture and become contaminated."



Jan 30, 2020
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the808bass
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Objective The aim of this study was to compare the efficacy of cloth masks to medical masks in hospital healthcare workers (HCWs). The null hypothesis is that there is no difference between medical masks and cloth masks.


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Results The rates of all infection outcomes were highest in the cloth mask arm, with the rate of ILI statistically significantly higher in the cloth mask arm (relative risk (RR)=13.00, 95% CI 1.69 to 100.07) compared with the medical mask arm. Cloth masks also had significantly higher rates of ILI compared with the control arm. An analysis by mask use showed ILI (RR=6.64, 95% CI 1.45 to 28.65) and laboratory-confirmed virus (RR=1.72, 95% CI 1.01 to 2.94) were significantly higher in the cloth masks group compared with the medical masks group. Penetration of cloth masks by particles was almost 97% and medical masks 44%.


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Conclusions This study is the first RCT of cloth masks, and the results caution against the use of cloth masks. This is an important finding to inform occupational health and safety. Moisture retention, reuse of cloth masks and poor filtration may result in increased risk of infection. Further research is needed to inform the widespread use of cloth masks globally. However, as a precautionary measure, cloth masks should not be recommended for HCWs, particularly in high-risk situations, and guidelines need to be updated.


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the808bass
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By contrast, surgical masks — those cheap, disposable, gauzy masks that often come in blue or green — are less uncomfortable. But Schaffner says the scientific evidence that "there might be a benefit for people in the community wearing [surgical] face masks is very, very meager. The general sense is perhaps, but they're certainly not an absolute protection." In other words, they do provide some benefit but they're far from foolproof.

Surgical masks are just a physical barrier that will protect you against "a visible splash or spray of fluid or large droplets," explains Raina MacIntyre, an infectious disease researcher and professor of global biosecurity at the University of New South Wales in Sydney who has studied the efficacy of face masks. These masks fit loosely on the face around the edges, so they don't completely keep out germs, and small airborne particles can still get through.

MacIntyre's research has shown that N95 respirators offer far superior protection. But in one study, she did find that family members who wore surgical masks when caring for a sick child at home had a lower risk of getting infected. But the benefit only occurred if people wore the masks "all the time when you are in the same room as the infected person," MacIntyre says — something many families in the study found difficult to do. "But if they did wear it, yes, they got protection."

MacIntyre notes that cloth masks — which people wash and reuse — are also common in Asian countries. She says there's no evidence to show they have any benefit, and her research suggests they "may actually be harmful," because infrequent washing and moisture retention can make cloth masks a breeding ground for pathogens.


NPR - Jan 2020


frogglet
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re: Revisionist History: for all u “proven to work” jacklegs
Mosts of your posts are about masks protecting the wearer. Most of the arguments in favor of wearing masks for covid are about keeping the wearer from spreading to others.


Errerrerrwere
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re: Revisionist History: for all u “proven to work” jacklegs
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Mosts of your posts are about masks protecting the wearer. Most of the arguments in favor of wearing masks for covid are about keeping the wearer from spreading to others.




808 just destroyed you. And the bull shite you just posted above proves that.


GoCrazyAuburn
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re: Revisionist History: for all u “proven to work” jacklegs
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Mosts of your posts are about masks protecting the wearer. Most of the arguments in favor of wearing masks for covid are about keeping the wearer from spreading to others.



So, what would make the masks that are ineffective at stopping the wearer from getting infected, help stop the wearer from infecting someone else?


frogglet
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808 just destroyed you. And the bull shite you just posted above proves that.


I honestly wasn't even sure if he was responding to me? How did anything he post relate to what I said?


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frogglet
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So, what would make the masks that are ineffective at stopping the wearer from getting infected, help stop the wearer from infecting someone else?


Helps reduce the amount and speed of microdroplets leaving the nose and mouth.

edit: Here is a quick video out of Japan that shows the concept pretty well: LINK
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texridder
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The WHO and the CDC already came out and admitted that they lied in March in order to protect PPE stocks for healthcare workers. And they wonder why no one believes them.
What would you have done?


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DMAN1968
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re: Revisionist History: for all u “proven to work” jacklegs
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As soon as I figured out you people

Racist bastard!


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CCT
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re: Revisionist History: for all u “proven to work” jacklegs
Summary: that goddamn fricking idiot in the governor’s office needs to be dragged out of town and thrown on a garbage heap. frick Edwards.


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