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re: Respect for Marriage Act passed by Senate. Goes to House for final vote.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 12:31 pm to SoonerK
Posted on 11/30/22 at 12:31 pm to SoonerK
quote:Polygamy is illegal. Yet it occurs. The state legally recognizes one wife. The other women in residence are ignored. As such, they are denied the legal right to marry the man they'd like to marry. If the state chooses, it can sever the physical relationship altogether, with imprisonment.
A state certainly has no right to end marriage. The right to marry is one of the fundamental rights of this country.
1st cousins are another example of states control of marriage. In about half the country, 1st cousin marriages are illegal. In the other half, 1st cousin marriage is legal and permitted.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 12:34 pm to SoonerK
quote:False.
marriage is a Constitutionally protected right that a state cannot simply come in and ban it.
In 24 states, the marriage of first cousins is illegal.
In 19 states, first cousins are permitted to wed.
7 additional states allow first-cousin marriage but with conditions.
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Posted on 11/30/22 at 12:40 pm to NC_Tigah
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Polygamy is illegal. Yet it occurs. The state legally recognizes one wife. The other women in residence are ignored. As such, they are denied the legal right to marry the man they'd like to marry. If the state chooses, it can sever the physical relationship altogether, with imprisonment.
1st cousins are another example of states control of marriage. In about half the country, 1st cousin marriages are illegal. In the other half, 1st cousin marriage is legal and permitted.
None of those are outlawing marriage itself. In the first example that is not between two consenting adults and the second example should be allowed.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 12:42 pm to SoonerK
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It means that marriage is a Constitutionally protected right
Marriage is not a constitutionally protected right. What are you talking about?
Posted on 11/30/22 at 12:44 pm to squid_hunt
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It means that marriage is a Constitutionally protected right
Marriage is not a constitutionally protected right. What are you talking about?
Many Supreme Court Justices along with the Current Chief Justice would disagree with you.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 12:44 pm to SoonerK
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None of those are outlawing marriage itself.
quote:Yet 24 "of those are outlawing marriage itself," which you claimed could not occur. It does, and it can.
the second example should be allowed
Posted on 11/30/22 at 12:45 pm to SoonerK
It's not constitutionally protected.
I don't know why people would be against at least civil unions for everyone. Marriage generally has a stabilizing affect on society.
I don't know why people would be against at least civil unions for everyone. Marriage generally has a stabilizing affect on society.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 12:45 pm to SoonerK
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Many Supreme Court Justices along with the Current Chief Justice would disagree with you.
Where is marriage in the Constitution?
Posted on 11/30/22 at 12:47 pm to SoonerK
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Many Supreme Court Justices along with the Current Chief Justice would disagree with you.
Activists, sure.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 12:48 pm to squid_hunt
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Many Supreme Court Justices along with the Current Chief Justice would disagree with you.
Where is marriage in the Constitution?
A right that a citizen has does not need to be explicitly written in the Constitution for it to be protected.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 12:51 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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This bill does nothing of the sort no matter how many times you repeat that.
And there's no CRT in the curriculum.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 12:53 pm to LSUbest
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And there's no CRT in the curriculum.
Exactly.
I wish I had as much faith in Politicians and Judges as bootlickers like Mickey.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 12:53 pm to Mickey Goldmill
quote:It has not passed, Mickey.
Well what are we talking about here? This specific bill.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 12:53 pm to SoonerK
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A right that a citizen has does not need to be explicitly written in the Constitution for it to be protected.
You can go get married. The state is not obligated to provide you any benefits or support based on your marital status. They don't have to recognize it. They don't have to make any allowances whatsoever. When you get done hyperventilating and calm down, try to read slower. You don't get to force everyone else to care about your boyfriend.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 12:55 pm to NC_Tigah
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It has not passed, Mickey.
And it will be used and abused like a cheap whore before it DOES go before a final vote.
Hell, with Democrats in control, there will be changes to the Bill AFTER it is passed.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 12:58 pm to SoonerK
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right that a citizen has does not need to be explicitly written in the Constitution for it to be protected.
Lol...
Someone doesn't understand true democracy where the 51% can vote to kill the 49%
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:01 pm to SoonerK
quote:As we found with Roe, a right does not need to exist at all in the Constitution for it to be protected.
A right that a citizen has does not need to be explicitly written in the Constitution for it to be protected.
Tell me about the rights of two 18y/o's to elope and marry in Nebraska. Tell me about the right of an 11y/o w/ parental consent to marry a 30y/o in California. How about, the right of that 11y/o w/ parental consent to marry a 30y/o in Arkansas.
How does the US Constitution address those "rights"?
This post was edited on 11/30/22 at 3:56 pm
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:03 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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right that a citizen has does not need to be explicitly written in the Constitution for it to be protected.
Lol...
Someone doesn't understand true democracy where the 51% can vote to kill the 49%
Luckily we aren't a true Democracy. It's amazing that all of these "conservatives" are all about giving all their rights to the state and federal government, but somehow argue that citizens do not have rights specifically reserved for them. Of course, they are also arguing against people like James Madison who wrote a document called the Bill of Rights.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:06 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:Here's the cheatsheet:
Tell me about the rights of two 18y/o's to elope and marry in Nebraska. Tell me about the right of an 11y/o w/ parental consent to marry a 30y/o in California. How about, the right of that 11y/o w/ parental consent to marry a 30y/o in Arkansas.
How does the US Constitution address those "rights"?
Tell me about the rights of two 18y/o's to elope and marry in Nebraska. Illegal.
Tell me about the right of an 11y/o w/ parental consent to marry a 30y/o in California. Legal.
How about, the right of that 11y/o w/ parental consent to marry a 30y/o in Arkansas. Illegal.
How does the US Constitution address those "rights"? It doesn't.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:11 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:Hence Mick’s use of the word “bill” rather than “statute.”
Well what are we talking about here? This specific bill.quote:
It has not passed, Mickey.
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