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re: Republicans turning into PC police?

Posted on 2/10/17 at 4:25 pm to
Posted by ballscaster
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 4:25 pm to
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1) This is a terrible troll.
I've never once trolled this board.
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2) This is not PC at all. Not even close.

The idea that expressing one's political opinions is offensive is political correctness.
This post was edited on 2/10/17 at 4:27 pm
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 4:26 pm to
Woah there webster, that's not the impression I was under.
Posted by Seldom Seen
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 4:29 pm to
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I'm an avowed left-basher




Lol
Posted by bamafan1001
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 4:38 pm to
No one buys your shite. Isnt it sad that you have to pretend not to be a leftist in order to have any kind of credibility?
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 4:42 pm to
You can't back up what you said.

Most of this board is fake-right. They're basically big government liberals compared to me.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 4:48 pm to
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I don't think PC means what you think it means.
When athletes make indefensible partisan left-wing statements. . . being annoyed by the statement becomes "PC Police"?

Not sure what phrase you were looking for here, but this isn't a case of PC.

If liberals responded to things they don't like, in the same manner the GOP has responded to this. . .there would be no PC problem in America.

True Story
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 4:48 pm to
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The idea that expressing one's political opinions is offensive is political correctness.
No it isn't.

Not even almost
Posted by dewster
Chicago
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 4:49 pm to
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The idea that expressing one's political opinions is offensive is political correctness.


A. No, it's not.
B. It's not offensive, it's inappropriate in the context of an athletic event.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 4:55 pm to
The right responded properly.

1. Initial hot take response

2. Followed by eyeroll the next week

3. Followed immediately by changing the channel

Suddenly the protests started to be ignored by the announcers because the ratings hit the shitter.

Posted by ballscaster
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 5:54 pm to
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B. It's not offensive, it's inappropriate in the context of an athletic event.
A tv interview isn't an athletic event.
Posted by dewster
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 5:56 pm to
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A tv interview isn't an athletic event.


The OP does not mention an interview. It mentions athletes. Most people are exposed to athletes at athletic events.

Even in the context of an interview where political statements or gestures are less inappropriate--everyone has the right to stop being fans for any or no reason at all. Entertainers and athletes get political at the risk of their own popularity or their teams.
This post was edited on 2/10/17 at 6:02 pm
Posted by ballscaster
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 6:01 pm to
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The OP does not mention an interview. It mentions athletes. Most people are exposed to athletes at athletic events.
It doesn't matter. Saying something political isn't an athletic event. And saying something political is appropriate anytime. Being bothered by it is also appropriate. Making fun of the pussy who is bothered by it is also appropriate.
This post was edited on 2/10/17 at 6:02 pm
Posted by dewster
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 6:03 pm to
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And saying something political is appropriate anytime


Very false. I would never advise any professional to share political opinions in the workplace. That includes professional athletes.
Posted by ballscaster
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 6:05 pm to
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Very false. I would never advise any professional to share political opinions in the workplace. That includes professional athletes.
That's between him and his employer. You don't get to decide that it's inappropriate for him. You're being PC police when you do that.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 6:15 pm to
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you're being PC police when you do that


An expectation of professionalism has nothing to do with political correctness. You've still failed miserably to link the two.

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That's between him and his employer


And the fans that buy the tickets, merchandise, and watch the games.

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You don't get to decide that it's inappropriate for him


I can choose to stop being a fan for any reason.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 6:23 pm to
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An expectation of professionalism
Isn't yours to which to subject him.
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has nothing to do with political correctness. You've still failed miserably to link the two.
You're the one who brought up professionalism, not me. His employer decides what's professional, not you or me. You're being PC police. He can say anything he wants, and you can be bothered if you want, and I can make fun of you for being PC police if I want.

You being a paying customer doesn't give you any moral right over his behavior. Whether or not you continue to be a fan of his is between you and your conscience.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 6:55 pm to
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Isn't yours to which to subject him.


As a consumer of the good or service that he and his employer produce, I can voluntarily choose to stop for any reason.

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His employer decides what's professional, not you or me


True, but you or I can choose not to consume their product for any reason...so both the athlete and their employer are subject to expectations of professionalism set by the consumers of the product they provide.

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You're being PC police


Political correctness still has nothing to do with valuing athletes that keep political or religious nonsense off the athletic field. It's a mistake to risk damage to their brand like that. Professionals should know better.
This post was edited on 2/10/17 at 7:01 pm
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 7:03 pm to
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As a consumer of the good or service that he and his employer produce, I can voluntarily choose to stop for any reason.
Not what we're talking about.
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Political correctness still has nothing to do with valuing athletes that keep political or religious nonsense off the athletic field.
Twitter isn't the athletic field. You're being PC police.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 7:12 pm to
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Twitter isn't the athletic field.


Twitter is a social media platform. What the hell are you talking about?

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You're being PC police


You've repeated this statement without any supporting argument. I'll consider them if you can provide them.

Where exactly am I being "PC police"? I am not trying to censor anyone whom I disagree with. I am not ridiculing anyone that I disagree with. I am not necessarily even disagreeing with what any particular athlete is saying.

To me, athletics is a break from the non stop partisan bickering going on today. That is a qualitative feature of the entertainment value to me (and millions of others). Remove that temporary escape and the product becomes less valuable.
This post was edited on 2/10/17 at 7:17 pm
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 2/10/17 at 7:23 pm to
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Twitter is a social media platform. What the hell are you talking about?
You keep saying "athletic field." When athletes offer you their opinions, it isn't while they're playing the sport you like watching them play. If you even are aware of the non-sports opinions of your favorite athletes, it is because you've chosen to listen to them.
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Where exactly am I being "PC police". I am not trying to censor anyone whom I disagree with. I am not ridiculing anyone that I disagree with. I am not necessarily even disagreeing with what any particular athlete is saying.
You're declaring what behavior is politically appropriate and inappropriate—that is, politically correct and incorrect—before and after the game. You're being PC police. Just like the left.
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To me, athletics is a break from the non stop partisan bickering going on today.
What you're complaining about doesn't happen during the game, so maybe take your own advice?
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