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re: Republicans stupid to criticize Obama on the Ukraine

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Posted by LSURussian
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Posted on 3/3/14 at 7:25 pm to
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Hong Kong back without instance
Without.... WHAT?!?
Posted by I B Freeman
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Posted on 3/3/14 at 7:26 pm to
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Once again all that was done to stop the spread of communism (one of the greatest evils in world history). So IDGAF.


That communism really had a long life didn't it? You would rather the Iran today than a backward Iran that had spent 50 years under communism? (a theory BTW since many believe the communist would not have lasted another election)
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
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Posted on 3/3/14 at 7:27 pm to
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Without.... WHAT?!?






Posted by LSURussian
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Posted on 3/3/14 at 7:28 pm to
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Iran that had spent 50 years under communism?

You're not being coherent. When was Iran "under communism"?
Posted by I B Freeman
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Posted on 3/3/14 at 7:28 pm to
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quote:
Hong Kong back without instance
Without.... WHAT?!?


Are you saying the transition from Britain to China was hostile?
Posted by I B Freeman
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Posted on 3/3/14 at 7:31 pm to
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You're not being coherent. When was Iran "under communism"?


Read you hard head. The guy said he didn't care the CIA installed the Shah of Iran because it was fighting communism. The obvious worst case alternative had the CIA not intervened would have been a communist controlled Iran. My question is could that have possibly been worse than what Iran became??
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 3/3/14 at 7:31 pm to
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quote:
Hong Kong back without instance
Without.... WHAT?!?


Are you saying the transition from Britain to China was hostile?
"incident"
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 3/3/14 at 7:32 pm to
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Hong Kong back without instance

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Are you saying the transition from Britain to China was hostile?


No, I'm asking what does "without instance" mean?
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
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Posted on 3/3/14 at 7:32 pm to
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No, I'm asking what does "without instance" mean?



It is a peninsular island word
Posted by VOR
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Posted on 3/3/14 at 7:34 pm to
I understand one of the issues is that Crimea's film tax credits are causing some economic difficulties for the region.
This post was edited on 3/3/14 at 7:39 pm
Posted by LSURussian
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Posted on 3/3/14 at 7:34 pm to
BHP, has he been this incoherent before?

He's usually pretty flaky, but this is way beyond that. He's making up things like he's seeing visions or something?
Posted by I B Freeman
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Posted on 3/3/14 at 7:35 pm to
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No, I'm asking what does "without instance" mean?


my bad.

You got a position on the issue?
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
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Posted on 3/3/14 at 7:35 pm to
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I understand one of the issues is that Crimeria's film tax credits are causing some economic difficulties for the region.






holy crap..that's great
Posted by willthezombie
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Posted on 3/3/14 at 7:35 pm to
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Why? So there oil companies would not be paid??? Have they messed with anyone else's ships???

IDK but us having a carrier or 2 in the region has been a pretty big deterrant for them not to.

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Just when did keeping the peace there become a constitutional mandate?

It is not but the last time the US and the world stuck our head in the sand we got WWII, if the Leagur of Nations and stood up to Japan when it invaded Machuria (sp) or Hitler's demands WWII may not have happened (don't really want to debate this since I don't have a time machine it is like debating what would have happened if the south had won).

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But just to follow your points. China took Hong Kong back without instance. Taiwan was not an independent country before and will probably reconcile with China soon and I really don't think China cares anymore. SK would destroy NK in a matter of weeks. Not even the Chinese will stand with NK now.

I was talking about if we hadn't intervened in the 1950's but I guess you aren't aware that NK overran SK in no time and committed genocide against the South Koreans who voted no to be communist.

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I personally do not wish to be taxed to keep the peace in Asia.

seeing how much business the US and our companies do in the region I would say that our tax dollars are well spent there.
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
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Posted on 3/3/14 at 7:36 pm to
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BHP, has he been this incoherent before?



Not that I've noticed. But, it has been entertaining tonight
Posted by trackfan
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Posted on 3/3/14 at 7:38 pm to
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If we didn't have a force in the region, Iran would be freaking with our ships left and right. Piracy would be alot more. If we didn't have a presence in Japan and SK, NK would be trying to conquer SK and maybe more and commiting even more horrible acts. China would be invading taiwan. Our presence there checks that and keeps the peace

Except for your reference to piracy, none of this makes any sense. Iran has no incentive no disrupt the flow of oil as long as their oil gets to the market freely. South Korea has a stronger military than North Korea. And we have about as much ability to stop China from taking Taiwan as we do of stopping Russia from taking Ukraine.

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Once again all that was done to stop the spread of communism (one of the greatest evils in world history). So IDGAF.

So opposition to communism gives us the right to completely ignore the rule of international law, a la Hitler and Saddam? Brilliant.
This post was edited on 3/3/14 at 7:42 pm
Posted by willthezombie
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Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 3/3/14 at 7:38 pm to
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I understand one of the issues is that Crimeria's film tax credits are causing some economic difficulties for the region.



Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 3/3/14 at 7:39 pm to
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No, I'm asking what does "without instance" mean?
It's opposite of "for instance".











Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 3/3/14 at 7:40 pm to
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You got a position on the issue?

What issue are trying to create now? I don't see an issue worth spending time discussing. Seriously, have you been drinking?
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 3/3/14 at 7:41 pm to
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I was talking about if we hadn't intervened in the 1950's but I guess you aren't aware that NK overran SK in no time and committed genocide against the South Koreans who voted no to be communist.


Yes I am aware of that and I am aware Americans died there and I am aware genocides have occurred from time to time across the world.

I am tired of the neocon foreign policy and you are not.

Ok who committed genocide in the Philippines during the Spanish American war?
This post was edited on 3/3/14 at 7:43 pm
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