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re: Republicans stupid to criticize Obama on the Ukraine

Posted on 3/3/14 at 7:00 pm to
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 3/3/14 at 7:00 pm to
Thanks Pinecone, your's too.
Posted by rcd0808
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 3/3/14 at 7:00 pm to
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USAF volunteered for convoy work.



I didn't realize the AF ever left the wire.

hint

#repealthe19thamendment / SemperFidelis
Posted by I B Freeman
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Posted on 3/3/14 at 7:01 pm to
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If we didn't have bases and a presence in the ME then our energy needs would be vulnerable,


That is BS and has been proven to be BS. This logic that those people would not sell us oil unless we have a Navy fleet off their coast is BS. Whoever is telling you that is twisted. That is the ole logic of when the US government was working with oil companies to get control of ME oil--ie when we overthrew the democratically elected government in Iran.

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in vietnam we had to stop (or try to stop)the spread of communism.


That was the premise of the initial involvement but it became about LBJ saving face 50,000 dead drafted teenage Americans latter. I guarantee you if deaths were on the level of VietNam in Irag and Afghanistan the re-up would be nil.
This post was edited on 3/3/14 at 7:02 pm
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
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Posted on 3/3/14 at 7:02 pm to
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Last round out training, his mom is NOT excited.


Give your soon my sincere thanks.

Give your wife a big hug for me.




I wish him success and health.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/3/14 at 7:05 pm to
SemperFi, my best friend is a retired E9 from the Corp. Trust me I get my share of shite from him, I usually told him if he needed help on the ASVAB retest to give me a call. A great American, I ran into him during Desert Storm in the sandbox, for some odd reason he was really in love with the A-10, he said the Hawg was his savior. I can't for the life of me figure out why.
Posted by rcd0808
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 3/3/14 at 7:06 pm to
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Jbird


Did you get my hint?
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 3/3/14 at 7:07 pm to
Thanks BHP, Wilco, sometime I will tell you about some Medivac stuff I did out of Bagram to Landsthul. Humbling to say the least.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 3/3/14 at 7:07 pm to
Marine?
Posted by rcd0808
Member since Jun 2013
876 posts
Posted on 3/3/14 at 7:09 pm to
I am a Marine who is in the process of switching to the Air Guard to be a TACP.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
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Posted on 3/3/14 at 7:11 pm to
Um got it.
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
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Posted on 3/3/14 at 7:12 pm to
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Um got it.



fixed wingers are soooo slow
Posted by rcd0808
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Posted on 3/3/14 at 7:13 pm to
Took you long enough. I though Air Force guys were supposed to be smart.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 3/3/14 at 7:13 pm to
Name threw me off.
Posted by rcd0808
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Posted on 3/3/14 at 7:14 pm to
Posted by rcd0808
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 3/3/14 at 7:14 pm to
Well,


yeah
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 3/3/14 at 7:15 pm to
So how is the transition?
Posted by willthezombie
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Posted on 3/3/14 at 7:16 pm to
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That is BS and has been proven to be BS. This logic that those people would not sell us oil unless we have a Navy fleet off their coast is BS. Whoever is telling you that is twisted

If we didn't have a force in the region, Iran would be freaking with our ships left and right. Piracy would be alot more. If we didn't have a presence in Japan and SK, NK would be trying to conquer SK and maybe more and commiting even more horrible acts. China would be invading taiwan. Our presence there checks that and keeps the peace.

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That is the ole logic of when the US government was working with oil companies to get control of ME oil--ie when we overthrew the democratically elected government in Iran.

Once again all that was done to stop the spread of communism (one of the greatest evils in world history). So IDGAF.

Back to you topic of cutting the defense spending. Are there ways to cut spending? Yes Should we? Yes but we shouldn't just stick our heads in the sand say hey you leave us alone we will leave you around. But like I said yesterday we don't need to be all John McCain and send troops everywhere.
Posted by rcd0808
Member since Jun 2013
876 posts
Posted on 3/3/14 at 7:17 pm to
Slow, everytime I send something up to HQMC they send down another form that needs to be filled out and signed.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/3/14 at 7:18 pm to
Got to get a sea daddy to hook you up.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 3/3/14 at 7:24 pm to
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If we didn't have a force in the region, Iran would be freaking with our ships left and right


Why? So there oil companies would not be paid??? Have they messed with anyone else's ships???

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If we didn't have a presence in Japan and SK, NK would be trying to conquer SK and maybe more and commiting even more horrible acts. China would be invading taiwan. Our presence there checks that and keeps the peace.


Just when did keeping the peace there become a constitutional mandate?

But just to follow your points. China took Hong Kong back without instance. Taiwan was not an independent country before and will probably reconcile with China soon and I really don't think China cares anymore. SK would destroy NK in a matter of weeks. Not even the Chinese will stand with NK now.

I personally do not wish to be taxed to keep the peace in Asia.

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