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re: Republicans petition SC on birth right citizenship

Posted on 1/29/26 at 9:49 am to
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 1/29/26 at 9:49 am to
We seriously have to be the dumbest fricking country on earth.

We allow pregnant Chinese women to come here, drop a fricking baby, and give it citizenship. Then they take them back to China, raise them as a good communist, train them to be a spy and send them back to the US to help destroy our nation.

And the left cheers this on. It’s absolute fricking madness.

Absolutely zero common sense in our judiciary.
Posted by Kjnstkmn
Vermilion Parish
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Posted on 1/29/26 at 11:28 am to
Posted by Ailsa
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Posted on 1/29/26 at 12:04 pm to
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"The Supreme Court is expected to rule on the constitutionality of President Trump's controversial birthright citizenship executive order in June or July 2026, after hearing arguments during the spring 2026 term for cases like Trump v. Washington, with a decision potentially coinciding with the nation's 250th anniversary of independence."
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476331 posts
Posted on 1/29/26 at 12:06 pm to
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"With a round-trip plane ticket, a malign actor can send an expecting mother to the United States, receive mother and baby on return, indoctrinate and train the child, and then send the individual back to the United States to engage in espionage activity. That mechanism, for instance, stymies major advances in digital surveillance and biometric technologies that make it harder for undercover agents to remain anonymous and operate in the target country under a false identity."

"...Thus, with an extremely modest financial investment and the passage of time, a foreign adversary can use geographically derived birthright citizenship to create a nearly undetectable human intelligence asset with no bonds of affection for his country of birth and carte blanche access to the United States. And as the example of Russia’s 'Illegals Program' shows, malign foreign actors are perfectly willing to make such long-term plays."


Those are all arguments to amend the Constitution. Those should have no bearing on interpreting the language of an Amendment, especially one wrote in the mid-19th century.
Posted by Ailsa
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Posted on 1/29/26 at 12:27 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476331 posts
Posted on 1/29/26 at 12:27 pm to
Look at the Monroe Doctrine in action
Posted by shinerfan
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Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 1/29/26 at 2:08 pm to
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If you read the case, that is not specifically addressed.



Yes, this was my point. Birthright citizenship is a bureaucratic interpretation of a law that does not address the issue

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Because that concept didn't really exist at the time, which should inform you.


It informs me that birthright citizenship is not and has never been law.


Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476331 posts
Posted on 1/29/26 at 2:13 pm to
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Yes, this was my point. Birthright citizenship is a bureaucratic interpretation of a law that does not address the issue

I don't know why the 14A would address that issue when it's not really applicable.

Congress is the one, decades later, who created the concept of that legal status. If your theory is correct, Congress can override the Constitution via statute.
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
28518 posts
Posted on 1/29/26 at 2:17 pm to
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If your theory is correct, Congress can override the Constitution via statute.



Pure nonsense. Straight to the Kamalesque word salad.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476331 posts
Posted on 1/29/26 at 2:18 pm to
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Straight to the Kamalesque word salad.


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If your theory is correct, Congress can override the Constitution via statute.


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word salad.


Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
20249 posts
Posted on 1/29/26 at 2:26 pm to
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The only way to do this should be a Constitutional Amendment.



there is, the 14th amendment.
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