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Republicans clash on reversing nuclear option in Senate
Posted on 12/9/14 at 1:59 pm
Posted on 12/9/14 at 1:59 pm
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How bad do Republicans suck at politics?
This is the consequences of Reid changing the rules. If the Republicans win in 2016 they can flood the courts with their judges. It's like watching a firing squad line up in a circle.
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The GOP was outraged last year after Reid and Democrats used a procedural move known as the “nuclear option” to unilaterally change the Senate’s rules to deprive the minority from being able to block most of President Obama’s nominations.
“I think it’s rank hypocrisy if we don’t,” Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) said when asked about reversing the rule change.
“If we don’t, then disregard every bit of complaint that we made, not only after they did it but also during the campaign,” he added. “I’m stunned that some people want to keep it.”
But other Republicans say now that Democrats have changed the rules to allow nominations aside from those to the Supreme Court to clear by majority vote, the GOP should go with the flow.
“I’m leaning toward leaving it alone,” said Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa), the incoming chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee.
Senior Republican members of the Senate Judiciary Committee see little tactical advantage in restoring the 60-vote threshold for nominees when they control the agenda next year.
They argue that if Obama nominates officials and judges who are too extreme, the Senate Judiciary could simply not report them to the floor, or incoming Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) could decide not to schedule them for votes.
They assert that reversing the nuclear option would not benefit them in the long term because Democrats would likely trigger it once again if they reclaimed the majority while their party controlled the White House.
And if a Republican wins the presidency in 2016, they want that officeholder to be able to shape his or her administration and the judicial branch with as free a hand as Obama has enjoyed during the final three years of his term.
“An immediate return to the prior nominations standard under Republican control would only reward Democrats for their misdeed and — since they have reaped the benefits but borne none of the costs — Democrats would have further incentive to engage in procedural abuses,” Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah), a former Judiciary Committee chairman, wrote in a Monday op-ed for Politico.
It’s unclear which position will prevail when GOP senators meet Tuesday afternoon to discuss the issue. All of the GOP senators, including the 12 newly elected freshmen from 2014, will take part in the debate.
How bad do Republicans suck at politics?
This is the consequences of Reid changing the rules. If the Republicans win in 2016 they can flood the courts with their judges. It's like watching a firing squad line up in a circle.
Posted on 12/9/14 at 2:02 pm to TOKEN
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How bad do Republicans suck at politics?
I think Democrats changing the rules was the bigger screw up.
IMO, Republicans should change the rules back. Someone needs to be the adult in the room.
Posted on 12/9/14 at 2:02 pm to TOKEN
The Republicans need to choke the beaches out with the same rules they forced on us.
No mercy BYCHS
No mercy BYCHS
Posted on 12/9/14 at 2:05 pm to TOKEN
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Sen. John McCain
frick him. He and his "gang" fricked over a shitton of good, quality nominees by GWB in the name of Senate comity.
frick him.
frick HIM!!!!
Posted on 12/9/14 at 2:15 pm to TOKEN
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They assert that reversing the nuclear option would not benefit them in the long term because Democrats would likely trigger it once again if they reclaimed the majority while their party controlled the White House.
basically
Posted on 12/9/14 at 2:18 pm to TOKEN
Are you guys still holding on to the hope that there is really a discernible difference between the two parties at this point?
That's cute.
That's cute.
Posted on 12/9/14 at 2:25 pm to TOKEN
he and gramnesty want to give power back, they've always been the dems ace in the hole. I suppose the dumbasses logic is if the dems regain the senate, they would never do the same shite.
this type of shite actually works with the low information types, but mccain is trying to fool a fricking corleone
this type of shite actually works with the low information types, but mccain is trying to fool a fricking corleone
Posted on 12/9/14 at 2:26 pm to TOKEN
As long as harry reid remains in the senate the GOP should force him to endure the nuclear option from the minority POV.
In reality I wish the option was never on the table in the first place.
In reality I wish the option was never on the table in the first place.
Posted on 12/9/14 at 2:28 pm to TOKEN
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This is the consequences of Reid changing the rules. If the Republicans win in 2016 they can flood the courts with their judges. It's like watching a firing squad line up in a circle.
I agree that we should leave it alone, even when the Democrats go back into power. Historically, the filibuster was meant to be applied to legislation, not nominees. Otherwise, Clarence Thomas almost certainly would have been filibustered.
Also, the federal courts during the Bush Administration were chronically short on judges. We should not allow that to happen.
Posted on 12/9/14 at 2:46 pm to TOKEN
Reverse: gain nothing. Any moral "high road" intent will be utterly ignored by the media and/or mean nothing to most voters.
Stay Nuclear: simply same advantage Dems made for themselves.
Stay Nuclear: simply same advantage Dems made for themselves.
Posted on 12/9/14 at 2:54 pm to boosiebadazz
We are saying if the beeches bend you over and flog you to boot, then you get bent over and flogged also.
Posted on 12/9/14 at 3:15 pm to S.E.C. Crazy
What goes around comes around.
Posted on 12/9/14 at 3:20 pm to TOKEN
D's and R's are no different than fighting elementary schoolers. State of US politics is so sad right now.
Posted on 12/9/14 at 3:25 pm to onmymedicalgrind
Revoke Reid's nuclear option. Otherwise the Senate is the House with longer terms.
Posted on 12/9/14 at 4:06 pm to TOKEN
Can't put that Genie back in the bottle.
Posted on 12/9/14 at 4:25 pm to TOKEN
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“I think it’s rank hypocrisy if we don’t,” Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) said when asked about reversing the rule change.
So be a rank hypocrite, jackass.
You'd think these idiots would've learned by now...there's no playing nice with the other side of the aisle. Nobody is going to thank you for "taking the high road".
Posted on 12/9/14 at 4:28 pm to S.E.C. Crazy
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The Republicans need to choke the beaches out with the same rules they forced on us.
Part of the problem was the Republican's refusal to confirm ... just about anybody.
Posted on 12/9/14 at 4:37 pm to a want
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Part of the problem was the Republican's refusal to confirm ... just about anybody.
Considering the freakshow nominees that Obama puts out there who could blame them?
Posted on 12/9/14 at 4:42 pm to USMCTiger03
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Considering the freakshow nominees that Obama puts out there who could blame them?
Like Republican Chuck Hagel? They damn near didn't confirm him. What a shite show.
Posted on 12/9/14 at 4:42 pm to dewster
If the republicans undo what the democrats did, it will embolden the Dems to do more like that because there would be no consequences. Part of the reason to avoid doing it in the first place was because the Dems knew the republicans might get to use it in the future.
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