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re: Republican voters listen to their morals: costs Moore
Posted on 12/12/17 at 11:41 pm to BamaGradinTn
Posted on 12/12/17 at 11:41 pm to BamaGradinTn
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"Dude"...you're even more stupid than I thought if you think I'm on Jones's side.
Couldn't tell. You've seemed so insanely angry at my posts. Clearly I am not a fan of Jones and supported a Moore victory tonight. It felt certain that you were disagreeing with me, like the other 99% here that voted for Jones. I was just trying to settle you down since you seem so irrationally angry at me or this whole situation. Still you call me stupid and attack. Show a little more maturity.
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 11:41 pm to m2pro
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I could act like a kid and talk about how Doug Jones is a piece of shite,
You are a kid..."dude".
Maybe you'd call Jones a piece of shite if he wanted to throw you in jail for engaging in your favorite vice.
Posted on 12/12/17 at 11:42 pm to m2pro
quote:I guess we'll have to wait for them to nominate an ephebophile before we see if some fraction of them reject him.
Would this happen in say... California?
Posted on 12/12/17 at 11:43 pm to m2pro
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Couldn't tell. You've seemed so insanely angry at my posts
The notion that all those people who voted against Moore were "mislead" is stupid. There's just no way to sugar coat it.
Posted on 12/12/17 at 11:43 pm to m2pro
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---ENTER allegations of sexual misconduct---
Game changer. Now our clean conscience with a strong religious guy is muddy. And the guys playing this game for far longer found a way to muck up a win for the uniparty.
People who care enough to vote today knew who Moore was and certainly had a strong opinion about him before the allegations. The allegations either confirmed he's the slimeball that he objectively is, or there's a vast liberal conspiracy against a godly man.
Roy Moore is in this for the glory of Roy Moore. Alabama knew this, and the majority couldn't support him being Senator. Many couldn't stomach the idea of Roy Moore fitting all the negative sterotypes of the state on display, all for the attention toward Roy Moore.
Posted on 12/12/17 at 11:44 pm to BamaGradinTn
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Maybe you'd call Jones a piece of shite if he wanted to throw you in jail for engaging in your favorite vice.
The point was simply that his commentary was unnecessarily nonconstructive. I am not defending all of Moore's positions or past statements. That would be a handful.
My point was, and it goes to you as well, post and try to make cogent arguments or don't, but there's no need to make it personal or get nasty.
Posted on 12/12/17 at 11:44 pm to m2pro
No.
You lost because of the idiot fringe that hijacked the conservatives ideology.
And you wont find anything but excuses here.
You lost because of the idiot fringe that hijacked the conservatives ideology.
And you wont find anything but excuses here.
Posted on 12/12/17 at 11:46 pm to BamaGradinTn
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The notion that all those people who voted against Moore were "mislead" is stupid. There's just no way to sugar coat it.
If all of the allegations slip away, you will be proven wrong on that and I would be well within my rights to call this WHOLE body of voters misled. If the allegations are proven TRUE, then I will concede.... that Moore actually is a piece of shite.
Mainly, until it's proven true, the republican voters got this wrong, because we lost the damn senate vote. And all based off of what we don't know as fact, at all.
Posted on 12/12/17 at 11:47 pm to m2pro
Isn’t there enough out there beyond these allegations to conclude that Moore is a piece of shite? Like getting removed from the bench twice?
Posted on 12/12/17 at 11:48 pm to CorporateTiger
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Isn’t there enough out there beyond these allegations to conclude that Moore is a piece of shite? Like getting removed from the bench twice?
More than enough.
Posted on 12/12/17 at 11:49 pm to Duke
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Roy Moore is in this for the glory of Roy Moore.
I've never really met the guy. It's hard to argue against that (or most of your post). But I don't think that alone was enough to cause republicans to change a vote or to do a write in.
The pedophilia angle is what made him lose. That's just how that is. That attack worked.
I am still pissy we weren't smart enough to put Mo Brooks in. It seemed so damn clear at the time.
Posted on 12/12/17 at 11:52 pm to m2pro
The guy is just a clown. Between waving his pistols on stage, riding a horse around, parading Steve Bannon around, and his wife talking about their Jew attorney, I don’t think there’s a better example of how not to run a campaign.
Posted on 12/12/17 at 11:54 pm to m2pro
Who cares about the allegations...Put them aside and Moore is still a clown that should be nowhere near the Senate. The Bannon wing of the party was sent a message tonight, enough is enough.
Posted on 12/12/17 at 11:55 pm to Smoke7024
Don’t forget his friend telling a story that was essentially “ROY AND I WERE IN A VIETNAMESE WHORE HOUSE TOGETHER WITH UNDERAGE PROSTITUTES.”
Whole Roy is in the middle a pedophilia story.
Then his campaign spokesman looked like a complete buffoon on CNN today.
Whole Roy is in the middle a pedophilia story.
Then his campaign spokesman looked like a complete buffoon on CNN today.
This post was edited on 12/12/17 at 11:58 pm
Posted on 12/12/17 at 11:56 pm to Porkchop Express
I have gotten off track a lot...
Ultimately, I started the thread with the hopes to illuminate the fact that Alabama and, indeed, all of us "deep red" states will always be made fun of. And they will never see how this trick they played on Moore at the last second of his career worked... and the voters of Alabama bought it. Whether the man is guilty of what he is alleged of doing or not, and whether or not the Alabama voters WERE tricked.... the point is, the state deserves credit for TRYING to do what's right, even if they missed the mark here.
Anyhow. Y'all have fun with it. It's late and I have an hour commute fairly early.
Establishments on both sides won tonight. No hard-blue states would have done what we did tonight.
Ultimately, I started the thread with the hopes to illuminate the fact that Alabama and, indeed, all of us "deep red" states will always be made fun of. And they will never see how this trick they played on Moore at the last second of his career worked... and the voters of Alabama bought it. Whether the man is guilty of what he is alleged of doing or not, and whether or not the Alabama voters WERE tricked.... the point is, the state deserves credit for TRYING to do what's right, even if they missed the mark here.
Anyhow. Y'all have fun with it. It's late and I have an hour commute fairly early.
Establishments on both sides won tonight. No hard-blue states would have done what we did tonight.
Posted on 12/12/17 at 11:57 pm to Sentrius
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Moore was well on his way to winning even with the crazy jesus talk.
The pedo stuff is what stopped him.
Much more electable alternative was available within the republican party. The idiots let the process undermine him.
Posted on 12/12/17 at 11:58 pm to glassman
frick Luther Strange may be corrupt, but he would have beaten Jones like a rented mule.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 12:00 am to m2pro
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But I don't think that alone was enough to cause republicans to change a vote or to do a write in.
The pedophilia angle is what made him lose. That's just how that is. That attack worked.
It opened the door, to make it ok to vote for the Democrat. In that sense, yes the attack worked to justify voting against a guy like Moore. Or at least just not go vote. So yes, it definitely had some impact but if Roy Moore wasn't Roy Moore he probably shakes it off enough to win.
Boil it down to this. Roy Moore is the sort of embarrassment Alabama has seen too many of in the greater national media. Old school gay hater, jeebus lovin', gun totin', country baw who's going to say something outrageously stupid once a week.
The last big story that wasn't football related invovled George Wallace and the State police getting their Rodney King on because black folks wanted to vote and stuff. There's enough in Bama who doesn't want the state looked at in the same kind of way again.
That's the motivation that won it for Jones. I'll grant you the media attention to Moore definitely ramped up that feeling of old cultural embarrassment.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 12:03 am to Duke
If Roy was normal, got accused of this stuff, denied it and ran a non-loony tunes campaign, then he probably still wins.
Instead you have his wife talking about their Jew lawyer. Him claiming evolution leads to shootings. He said he wanted to repeal amendments 11 onward.
Regardless of whether any of that “matters,” all he had to do was be a generic Republican and he could have won.
Instead you have his wife talking about their Jew lawyer. Him claiming evolution leads to shootings. He said he wanted to repeal amendments 11 onward.
Regardless of whether any of that “matters,” all he had to do was be a generic Republican and he could have won.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 12:04 am to m2pro
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Republican voters listen to their morals: costs Moore
Its sad they way they let the fake media manipulate them. They did the same thing here and elected LBJ because Vitter screwed a hooker.
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