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re: Republican identity optics.

Posted on 11/7/18 at 9:24 am to
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
37837 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 9:24 am to
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we need BLIND votes.

Candidate A - supports this, policy that Candidate B - supports this, policy that.
What a novel fricking concept.


shite, it won’t be long before businesses start removing name/age/sex/name from the application process and go to “applicant 1” “applicant 2” etc with just their accomplishments/education/work history that way their hiring practice is 100% merit based and the losers can’t shite here and cry racism or anything else
Posted by 3nOut
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Jan 2013
31859 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 9:28 am to
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How do you figure that? Just for the House, Dims ran 231 women, Repubs ran 78.


that may have been in Texas, or for all statewide offices.

if i was wrong, my mistake.

regardless, it's not like republicans aren't voting for or enabling minorities. it's just the minorities they enable and put forth are not promoted by the media. John James has 10x the qualifications that Beto had when he first ran for office and you would have never heard his name if not for this board. One of them got their own 60 minutes spot, spot on Ellen and Colbert, and had celebrities endorse the country over. One of them got a few tweets from the president.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 9:31 am to
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What if..... we ran candidates based on their competence and ability, and not on their skin color?
If you want to win elections, you must take into account every factor that a voter might consider to be important. If you have two equally-qualified candidates (or even close to “equal”), and one of those candidates will draw you several hundred thousand extra votes, you would be foolish to NOT consider that fact
Posted by 6R12
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2005
11589 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 9:36 am to
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What if..... we ran candidates based on their competence and ability, and not on their skin color?




Well that is against the rules now. We need to judge people on their skin color and sexual identity etc today. It's a diff day, sad day for sure. What would MLK say about this?
Posted by Adajax
Member since Nov 2015
8336 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 9:51 am to
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regardless, it's not like republicans aren't voting for or enabling minorities. it's just the minorities they enable and put forth are not promoted by the media. John James has 10x the qualifications that Beto had when he first ran for office and you would have never heard his name if not for this board. One of them got their own 60 minutes spot, spot on Ellen and Colbert, and had celebrities endorse the country over. One of them got a few tweets from the president.

I agree with you 100%. It was easy for the media to ignore, even bury in obscurity, one John James. It would be far more difficult to ignore five John James. They are out there; look at Turning Point and #walkaway, Qualified minorities are out there. Republicans need to recruit them, that's all I'm saying. That so many people just here are triggered by the prospect speaks volumes for the state of the GOP. Do you think Trump would be so resistant to recruiting minorities? I know he wouldn't. MAGA b*tches.
Posted by Dead End
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
21237 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 10:03 am to
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Republicans had more women up for votes than democrats last night. There was a hard push for John James, Mia Love, a muslim republican, and Desantis from Florida and Cruz from Texas are hispanic.

People have been beating on the John James is a rock star for months, but he didn't get invited to Ellen or Kimmel.




That's because liberals are the racist party in America. They have to control the plantation LBJ's plan will fail.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
93044 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 10:05 am to
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we need BLIND votes.

Candidate A - supports this, policy that
Candidate B - supports this, policy that.


I agree. Today, Voters only need to be knowledgeable about how to press a button without actually knowing anything about the candidate.
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 10:06 am to
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What if..... we ran candidates based on their competence and ability, and not on their skin color?


Nah man, don’t be crazy. We want our likable candidates and not competent ones.
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
17008 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 10:49 am to
I see (Sort Of) what you’re saying.

I think the solution (at least in the South) is to phase out racial gerrymandering. Rs need to start aggressively running candidates in racially gerrymandered districts. I don’t care if these candidates are white, black or purple- but why are Rs conceding these minority districts to Democrats??? The only way to spread the message is to actually RUN CANDIDATES AND BACK THEM WITH FULL RESOURCES.

For example, Cedric Richmond is in a carved out black District in Louisiana. Not a SINGLE Republican ran against him. Do you mean to tell me there is not one conservative black person in Louisiana that the R Party couldn’t get behind?

Racial gerrymandering has led to the polarization of the South on racial issues, and I think it’s tragic and worked to the disadvantage of ALL Southerners - white, black and otherwise. We have no reason to talk to each other.

What good has Sheila Jackson Lee done for anyone in her District for example, or for Texas as a whole?? To me she’s just as divisive and nuts as kooky right wing types the Rs get saddled with. Nobody talks about how bad Sheila Jackson Lee sucks in part bc the media is full of leftists that are biased, but also because NOBODY EVER CHALLENGES HER DURING ELECTIONS.

If we could as a country could focus on fighting about good economic policy by taking the fight to idiots like Lee then the need for minority reserved districts goes away.

It is important to me as a white Southerner that Black Americans are represented in government. Maybe it’s white guilt. But My God look at the tragic history of black people when they were marginalized. We had to Do some major shite to fix the fact that Nobody was around to say - Stop screwing black people over for 300 years. Now that those changes have been made, we need to move to the next step which is actually spreading a message of economic hope to minority and poor communities. It is the ONLY thing that will remind us we are all in this economy together.

If the Rs are smart they start targeting the Shelia Jackson Lees and that idiot woman in Florida with the Cowboy Hat of this world in their own Districts. This may work better if the candidates they chose are young, smart and non-white because the electorate will find them more relatable - but to me- Its not mandatory. R candidates will not win em all. But they will be able to spread some kind of message. Either way - the candidates will ultimately successful by (1) pointing out how bad these idiots are screwing over minority communities (bc they are); and (2) most
Importantly suggesting an alternative, affirmative policy path. A sort of reverse Beto Effect.

The end goal should be to eliminate identity politics, in favor of issue and geography based politics. Identity politics are toxic.
Posted by seawolf06
NH
Member since Oct 2007
8159 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 1:23 pm to
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Did our Muslim candidate win?


Omar Qudrat did not win. There were six Muslim candidates for Federal positions and three won.
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