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Republican House and Senate—No Wall
Posted on 1/25/19 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 1/25/19 at 12:24 pm
I’ve been out of the loop so I apologize for the question in advance but why didn’t we fund the wall when we had majority in both?
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Posted on 1/25/19 at 12:25 pm to Hoyt
Need 60 Senators to vote yay
Posted on 1/25/19 at 12:25 pm to Hoyt
quote:
majority
uummmmmmm
That isn't how it works?
Posted on 1/25/19 at 12:25 pm to Hoyt
because you need 60...not a majority
Posted on 1/25/19 at 12:25 pm to MrLarson
Roger that
Posted on 1/25/19 at 12:25 pm to Hoyt
Tom Donahue, President of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce owns house and senate Republicans and he said no wall. That's why Paul Ryan didn't pass it.
Posted on 1/25/19 at 12:26 pm to Hoyt
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I’ve been out of the loop so I apologize for the question in advance but why didn’t we fund the wall when we had majority in both?
How many times do you have to be told...
To pass legislation it requires 60 votes in the Senate.
The Republicans held 51 seats. As long as the democrats said no it was no!
Posted on 1/25/19 at 12:26 pm to Hoyt
Posted on 1/25/19 at 12:27 pm to Choctaw
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because you need 60...not a majority
Technically the constitution only requires a simple majority.
Long Standing Senate rules make it 60
Posted on 1/25/19 at 12:28 pm to Hoyt
Same reason Dems didn't change gun law or immigration when they actually had the 60 cloture votes.
Both parties want issues for campaigns. Neither want to solve anything.
Both parties want issues for campaigns. Neither want to solve anything.
This post was edited on 1/25/19 at 12:29 pm
Posted on 1/25/19 at 12:32 pm to TOPAL
quote:
Need 60 Senators to vote yay
But Trump made a huge tactical error by waiting.
Posted on 1/25/19 at 12:33 pm to TOPAL
quote:That, and Paul Ryan.
Need 60 Senators to vote yay
Posted on 1/25/19 at 12:34 pm to Hoyt
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why didn’t we fund the wall when we had majority in both?
I've been asking this all week and cant get a straight answer.
Posted on 1/25/19 at 12:35 pm to TOPAL
quote:
Need 60 Senators to vote yay
I always get so damn confused about this. When is a 60 vote majority required vs a simple majority required?
Posted on 1/25/19 at 12:35 pm to Hoyt
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I’ve been out of the loop so I apologize for the question in advance but why didn’t we fund the wall when we had majority in both?
You may have not heard, but it is now a NATIONAL EMERGENCY, that happened quite recently. About 35 days ago.
This post was edited on 1/25/19 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 1/25/19 at 12:36 pm to AggieDub14
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why didn’t we fund the wall when we had majority in both?
I've been asking this all week and cant get a straight answer.
That's because very few Trump supporters here want to admit that Trump was a jackass for waiting until now. No other answer makes sense.
Posted on 1/25/19 at 12:38 pm to Hoyt
Wolves in Sheep's Clothing that's why. Just cause they have an R behind their name doesn't mean they aren't globalists. See Jeff Flake, McCain, Romney, Snow, ETC....
Posted on 1/25/19 at 7:15 pm to TDsngumbo
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Need 60 Senators to vote yay
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I always get so damn confused about this. When is a 60 vote majority required vs a simple majority required?
Constitutionally it always simple majority.
The Senate made long standing rules around 100 years ago to do away with the filibuster.
They made it so that a Senator didn't have to actually filibuster and could just express he or she was invoking that privilege. It would then need 60 votes to get cloture ending debate and stop the "pocket filibuster"
So IOW any contested piece of legislation needs 60 votes
When you have heard of the term "nuclear option" that was a name given when Harry Reid changed the long standing 60 vote to overturn a filibuster and make it only simple majority for federal judges and federal appointments.
He left the 60 vote rule in place for supreme court and legislation
When the Republicans took power they did away with the 60 vote rule to get Gorsuch and Kavanaugh on the bench
The only rule left is on legislation. It will likely go by the wayside either the next time Democrats gain control of all 3 branches of government
Posted on 1/25/19 at 7:39 pm to TOPAL
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Need 60 Senators to vote yay...
...to bring it to a floor vote. Then 51 votes would pass it. Never could get it to a vote.
There was a large part of Ryan and McConnell not willing to expend political capital to get the votes.
Posted on 1/25/19 at 7:44 pm to Choctaw
And of those 60, none of them can be Democrats posing as Republicans.
Seriously. Rs didn’t have 51. McCain, Flake and Corker never really counted.
Seriously. Rs didn’t have 51. McCain, Flake and Corker never really counted.
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