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Repeal the 16th Amendment and abolish income taxes

Posted on 4/15/19 at 11:04 am
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 11:04 am
We should be funding government through a national sales tax.

Income taxes are theft.
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
20603 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 11:05 am to
A fantastic first step would be to make people actually pay their taxes.

Employers should not be able to withhold taxes. Eveyone should have to write a check. That would certain make you think more carefully about how your taxes are spent
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
51690 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 11:06 am to
But "muh poorz"

Repealing the income tax would have to come first, otherwise we would end up with both.
Posted by 31TIGERS
Mike’s habitat
Member since Dec 2004
7219 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 11:13 am to
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Repeal the 16th Amendment and abolish income taxes by weagle99


Think of how much waste would be omitted by getting rid of that irs organization. Next, the BOE, the EPA, the usps, and any other wasteful spending federal entity. Over half of those bums are only there to collect a check and then a government pension.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 11:16 am to
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a national sales tax.
Yeah, that wouldn't throw our consumer/retail driven economy into a deep depression at all!
Posted by yatesdog38
in your head rent free
Member since Sep 2013
12737 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 11:21 am to
nah we should just stop funding the government all together. disband everything and sell off our nukes to the highest bidder.
Posted by cr32pll29
Member since Apr 2017
500 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 11:22 am to
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Yeah, that wouldn't throw our consumer/retail driven economy into a deep depression at all!


It would, but I think that's what our shallow, hedonistic, zombified society needs.
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 11:26 am to
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Yeah, that wouldn't throw our consumer/retail driven economy into a deep depression at all!


Quite the opposite.

Price of goods remains the same after Fairtax implementation.

fairtax.org

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A study by the Government Accountability Office estimated that the federal tax system imposed efficiency costs on the U.S. economy of two to five percent of GDP. Under the FairTax, within ten years average Americans will be at least 10 percent and probably 15 percent better off than they would be under the current system. That translates to an increase of $3,000 to $4,500 per household, per year.
This post was edited on 4/15/19 at 11:29 am
Posted by Pdubntrub
Member since Jan 2018
1779 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 11:34 am to
Give me your money and I'll give it out in your name. That's laughable but when it's called taxes people believe it
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 11:38 am to
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Price of goods remains the same after Fairtax implementation.

So, you've never been to Europe??
Posted by JOJO Hammer
Member since Nov 2010
11921 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 11:38 am to
Without an income tax how would people survive with no tax return?
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
9115 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 11:40 am to
I'm against all taxation, but if we're going to have taxes, they sould be collected when we voluntarily spend our money, not taken by force when we earn it.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 11:42 am to
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how would people survive with no tax return?
Refund.

REFUND, goddammit!!!
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
9115 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 11:44 am to
They have income taxes too. That gets factored into the price if things.

Truth be told, it's a little intimidating telling you of all people that very important detail.
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
21917 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 11:46 am to
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Price of goods remains the same after Fairtax implementation.


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So, you've never been to Europe??


The problem in Europe is they have both a VAT and an income tax.

Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 11:48 am to
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The problem in Europe is they have both a VAT and an income tax.


Exactly.

Fairtax goes into effect after the 16th is repealed.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 11:48 am to
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They have income taxes too. That gets factored into the price if things.

And they are in a 15 year-long economic slowdown as we speak....

The U.S. economy looks like Shangri-La compared to Europe's economy. But, sure, let's be more like Europe....
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
21917 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 11:51 am to
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The problem in Europe is they have both a VAT and an income tax.


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Exactly. Fairtax goes into effect after the 16th is repealed.


Groceries should also be exempt from the fair tax.
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 11:51 am to
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The U.S. economy looks like Shangri-La compared to Europe's economy. But, sure, let's be more like Europe....


How is having a national sales tax and no income tax ‘being more like’ a place with a sales tax and income tax?
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
9115 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 11:53 am to
Russian, it's their overall tax burden, governments' spending and regs that are causing most of that.

If they got rid of their income taxes, and only had vat taxes, do you really believe their economies would still be stuck in the mud?
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