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re: Removing the MCAT Could Improve Diversity in Medicine

Posted on 1/26/23 at 10:02 pm to
Posted by Gastrogastro99
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Posted on 1/26/23 at 10:02 pm to
Not to mention this is more than likely a preclinical class being mentioned. The real money maker and what separates the elite from the meh in medical school are the core clerkship rotations, honoring those is worth their weight in gold
Posted by SG_Geaux
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Posted on 1/26/23 at 11:00 pm to
IDGAF about diversity in medicine.

I care about competence in medicine.
Posted by SECdragonmaster
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Posted on 1/27/23 at 7:45 am to
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Might be referring to TBL (team based learning) sessions. A lot of schools do them now but they (usually multiple sessions combined) only usually account for a tiny portion (like 2-3%) of your final course grade


You are accurate. I would rather not say the name of the school (privacy reasons) but it is a highly regarded medical school (Top 5 in the southeast).

It is a limited % of the final grade but it is an exercise in stupidity.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
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Posted on 1/27/23 at 8:25 am to
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The real money maker and what separates the elite from the meh in medical school are the core clerkship rotations, honoring those is worth their weight in gold

A lot of the elite medical schools have already switched to P/F in the clerkships as well.

In the near future, a student will graduate from medical school with no grades, a P/F step 1 and step 2 being the only objective data point on their CV.
Posted by Gastrogastro99
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Posted on 1/27/23 at 10:42 am to
Yeah that’s just the elite schools though, and if you go to an elite school you could be an awful student and still match into a competitive field, which is awful. I’ve never understood the obsession of where a doc went to med school. There are terrible docs from Harvard and outstanding docs from unranked DO schools, I think it’s just another trick the elites use to control the public.
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Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
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Posted on 1/27/23 at 11:53 am to
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Yeah that’s just the elite schools though, and if you go to an elite school you could be an awful student and still match into a competitive field, which is awful. I’ve never understood the obsession of where a doc went to med school. There are terrible docs from Harvard and outstanding docs from unranked DO schools, I think it’s just another trick the elites use to control the public.

I wouldn’t go that far. The elite schools are elite for a reason. Much harder to get accepted into, therefore they theoretically have “better” students.

No difference than college to pro sports. Sure, there are great players from Wyoming, Texas Tech, etc but you are still more likely to be great if you come from Bama, LSU, etc.
Posted by Gastrogastro99
Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 1/27/23 at 11:59 am to
Disagree, medicine is much different than taking a test and undergrad performance (which is bigly grade inflated now). I’ve seen lots of terrible docs from great schools and a lot great docs from “bad” schools. I think it’s more to do with the curriculum. The p/f students at elite schools aren’t gonna be as good as podunck MD from the state school who had to be at the top of the class to match ortho. With that being said, where you go to residency matters more and I will be seeking out docs who went to mid tier md schools and good residencies over the ivy pass/fail folks.
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