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Remember, there's no such thing as lawfare...

Posted on 10/3/26 at 8:10 am
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 10/3/26 at 8:10 am
US Judge blocks housing grant cuts while anti-DEI challenge proceeds

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WASHINGTON, Oct 1 (Reuters) - A federal judge temporarily blocked the ?Trump administration from canceling nearly $56 million in housing counseling grants, preserving the funding while a legal challenge to the ?cuts moves forward.

In an order issued late on Wednesday, US District Judge Jia Cobb suspended the September 30 deadline that would ordinarily cause the funds to lapse and revert to the Treasury, writing that she was "not presently in a position to grant or deny" the groups' request for broader relief but was ?also hesitant to allow the date to pass if doing so would cause the plaintiffs to permanently lose access to ?the funding.




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Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/3/26 at 8:13 am to
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Remember, there's no such thing as lawfare...

You're mis-stating the argument

The argument is "lawfare" is another malleable term that shifts as is necessary for a particular point/argument. Like "globalism", "Deep State", etc.

I'll give an example. Alabama just passed a patently illegal law (death penalty for sex offenders). Was that law fare? Will it become law fare if they ever try to enforce it? Will appealing a ruling be law fare? Can its law fare status be cleansed with a wholesale change in the law by the USSC? What are the rules/definitions?
Posted by faraway
Member since Nov 2022
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Posted on 10/3/26 at 8:18 am to
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patently illegal law
please explain that way. which law is it violating? cruel and unusual are very subjective, thus not "patently" illegal.
Posted by captainFid
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Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 10/3/26 at 8:20 am to
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The argument is "lawfare" is another malleable term that shifts as is necessary for a particular point/argument. Like "globalism", "Deep State", etc.



Oh lord -- Sounds like we are going to get a 10 page discussion thread [with you as the main contributor], on 'What is your definition of lawfare?'

Thank heaven today is for college football.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 10/3/26 at 8:21 am to
Lawfare is the new buzz word for the boomer crowd mad that the country isn’t a dictatorship. But only when they like their dictator.
This post was edited on 10/3/26 at 8:22 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/3/26 at 8:28 am to
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please explain that way. which law is it violating?

There is a Supreme Court ruling directly on topic

The death penalty is not legal for child rape
Posted by RohanGonzales
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Posted on 10/3/26 at 8:29 am to
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SlowFlowPro


more bullshite
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
484436 posts
Posted on 10/3/26 at 8:29 am to
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Oh lord -- Sounds like we are going to get a 10 page discussion thread [with you as the main contributor], on 'What is your definition of lawfare?'


It's a nonsense term with no set definition

I'm not the one using it or incorrectly stating the argument about the term
Posted by texag7
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Posted on 10/3/26 at 8:29 am to
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It's a nonsense term with no set definition


According to…you?

Well that doesn’t mean anything.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
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Posted on 10/3/26 at 8:30 am to
Posted by VOR
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
69890 posts
Posted on 10/3/26 at 8:31 am to
You are the rare example on this board
who recognizes useless semantic and rhetorical inventions that are in vogue but tossed around too frequently. “Lawfare” only has meaning to the speaker using it to argue a point of view…
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/3/26 at 8:35 am to
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It's a nonsense term with no set definition

Irrelevant!
Posted by LSUthrilla
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
2160 posts
Posted on 10/3/26 at 8:36 am to
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It's a nonsense term with no set definition


Aren’t you being a little disingenuous? It’s obvious how and why the term was originally used and developed.

Your example is meaningless because there is no political component or weaponization of a political figure.

Certainly you recognize that instead of pretending the definition is malleable enough for you to obfuscate the actual point of the thread(s).
Posted by dalefla
Central FL
Member since Jul 2024
4869 posts
Posted on 10/3/26 at 8:45 am to
Lawfare is the selective enforcement dependent on a set of variables such as political affiliation.

Did NY selectively go after Trump for over valuating property to get more favorable loan terms or did they go after everyone they suspected of doing this?

Did NY change their statute of limitations to speficslly go after Trump or did they go after everyone that would have been subject to the statute after changing it?
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
118134 posts
Posted on 10/3/26 at 8:54 am to
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Did NY selectively go after Trump for over valuating property to get more favorable loan terms or did they go after everyone they suspected of doing this?

Did NY change their statute of limitations to speficslly go after Trump or did they go after everyone that would have been subject to the statute after changing it?


Did the candidate for NY AG specifically run on "getting Trump"?

There's a reason the VAST majority of TROs/injunctions/stays that have been routinely reversed/lifted by higher courts are coming from O'Biden judges.

And, of course, the Batsignal went up to SFP, who responded as expected.

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Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 10/3/26 at 8:54 am to
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According to…you?

I don't use it so no. I am not the one creating infinite definitions and uses of the term
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
484436 posts
Posted on 10/3/26 at 8:55 am to
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Aren’t you being a little disingenuous? It’s obvious how and why the term was originally used and developed.

Originally ain't today

The term keeps changing and evolving and adding definitions as we go on

That's the point
Posted by Branson
Member since Dec 2023
519 posts
Posted on 10/3/26 at 8:56 am to
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Lawfare is the selective enforcement dependent on a set of variables such as political affiliation.

Did NY selectively go after Trump for over valuating property to get more favorable loan terms or did they go after everyone they suspected of doing this?

Did NY change their statute of limitations to speficslly go after Trump or did they go after everyone that would have been subject to the statute after changing it?





Counselor?
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
41819 posts
Posted on 10/3/26 at 8:56 am to
Nobody cares whether or not you approve of a term
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
484436 posts
Posted on 10/3/26 at 8:56 am to
quote:

Lawfare is the selective enforcement dependent on a set of variables such as political affiliation.

Did NY selectively go after Trump for over valuating property to get more favorable loan terms or did they go after everyone they suspected of doing this?

Did NY change their statute of limitations to speficslly go after Trump or did they go after everyone that would have been subject to the statute after changing it?

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