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re: “Relevant Statistics” Thread
Posted on 6/3/20 at 4:41 pm to Madking
Posted on 6/3/20 at 4:41 pm to Madking
quote:
He claims raw data is deceitful
I have linked to the raw data many times in this thread, and I have begged you guys to look at it. Guess what, no one does! You would all rather claim the deceitful calculations are legit, and then accuse me of saying the "raw data" is deceitful. It's fricking bizarro-world in here.
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 4:42 pm to roadGator
quote:It sure does.quote:Depends on the zip code.
But if a black person were to commit a random crime, there is a 13%
Speaking of which, if we're ever in the same zip code, we should get a beer.
Posted on 6/3/20 at 4:42 pm to Korkstand
What discussion, you just admitted that it’s a fact. Are you taking social plight? Ok let’s get into that but if you’re taking systemic racism by police you don’t have the numbers on your side. You can’t bypass the direct influences just to paint a country or race as evil.
Posted on 6/3/20 at 4:43 pm to Korkstand
After I beat down some antifa tonight I might have a couple four.
Posted on 6/3/20 at 4:46 pm to Korkstand
Until you learn that you’re not the arbiter of fact you’ll lose everytime. You don’t get to decide that official numbers are a lie while leftist sponsored stats are the end all. I’m sure we can find heavily biased numbers that would push farther against you but you go by official numbers. You don’t get to set all the rules in your favor because you can’t win fare and square, that’s the definition of bias.
This post was edited on 6/3/20 at 4:48 pm
Posted on 6/3/20 at 4:47 pm to Madking
quote:No, you don't want to find the truth.
I don’t need to go find what you want
quote:I'm the only one linking to proof in this entire thread. None of you care.
the proof is constantly being thrown in your face as we speak
quote:
Plus you’ve proven over and over that you won’t accept reality so what’s the point?
quote:I did the exact same calculations using the exact same data source as the data that bunk chart is made from, but I swapped out the black data for asian data. It may surprise you, but it doesn't surprise me, that a similarly outrageous number is produced using that arbitrary math that compounds demographic ratios.
And you haven’t provided any numbers only theories based on unprovable irrelevant spin.
But, again and again, you refuse to acknowledge that fact, even though I'm making it so easy to check.
Posted on 6/3/20 at 4:47 pm to Korkstand
quote:
But we canNOT have those discussions if both sides are blowing everything out of proportion
Wrong again
You can’t have those conversations period.
Posted on 6/3/20 at 4:49 pm to Korkstand
You haven’t linked anything since you asked for me to obey you, stop lying. There are no exact calculations and your theories expose more than they prove.
Posted on 6/3/20 at 4:50 pm to Madking
quote:Every single post from me in this thread is based on the "ideology" of truth. There is simply no way to deny the facts that I've pointed out regarding the white/asian data and how it relates to the white/black data. This is evidenced by the fact that neither you nor anyone else has even attempted to deny it.
“You fall for it”
Says the guy trying to invert reality at the alter of leftist ideology. Boy you’re a peach.
Posted on 6/3/20 at 4:50 pm to Korkstand
Awe and spectacle to cover reality. Nice try maybe you should be a clown for kids parties.
This post was edited on 6/3/20 at 4:51 pm
Posted on 6/3/20 at 4:51 pm to Korkstand
“Ideology of truth”
Well thanks for falling on your sword for us.
Well thanks for falling on your sword for us.
Posted on 6/3/20 at 4:55 pm to Madking
quote:What the hell are you talking about now?
What discussion, you just admitted that it’s a fact. Are you taking social plight? Ok let’s get into that but if you’re taking systemic racism by police you don’t have the numbers on your side. You can’t bypass the direct influences just to paint a country or race as evil.
I know what the numbers say, and I know that blacks lead in pretty much any and every criminal statistical category. I also know that there is NO evidence that cops disproportionately kill or attack blacks. Stop trying to pin that absurd view on me!
What I AM telling you is that the first and most prominent infographic in the OP is flat-out manipulative and deceitful. It is a prime example of how easy it is to make statistics say something they don't. Everyone knows there are lies, damned lies, and statistics. In this case, demographic ratios are sneakily worked into the data twice, as evidenced by doing the same calculations using a different minority population's statistics.
Posted on 6/3/20 at 4:56 pm to Korkstand
Since this is still going on, let's see if Thomas Bayes can get through that tete dure.
We want to know how much more likely a black person is to commit a crime on a white person than a white person is to a black person.
Prob of being white: P(W) = 197MM/235MM = 0.84
Prob of being black: P(B) = 1-0.84 = 0.16
Prob of attack: P(A) = (550K+60K)/235MM = 0.0026
Prob of being white given you're attacking: P(W|A) = 60K/610K = .098
Prob of being black given you're attacking: P(B|A) = 1-.098 =.902
Prob you're attacking given you're white: P(A|W) = (.0026×.098)/.84 = 0.0003
Prob you're attacking given you're black: P(A|B) = (.0026×.902)/.16 = .01466
P(A|B)/P(A|W) = 49
A black person is 49x more likely to attack a white person than vice versa.
There it is. No squaring or doubling of population or any of that other b.s. you keep spouting.
We want to know how much more likely a black person is to commit a crime on a white person than a white person is to a black person.
Prob of being white: P(W) = 197MM/235MM = 0.84
Prob of being black: P(B) = 1-0.84 = 0.16
Prob of attack: P(A) = (550K+60K)/235MM = 0.0026
Prob of being white given you're attacking: P(W|A) = 60K/610K = .098
Prob of being black given you're attacking: P(B|A) = 1-.098 =.902
Prob you're attacking given you're white: P(A|W) = (.0026×.098)/.84 = 0.0003
Prob you're attacking given you're black: P(A|B) = (.0026×.902)/.16 = .01466
P(A|B)/P(A|W) = 49
A black person is 49x more likely to attack a white person than vice versa.
There it is. No squaring or doubling of population or any of that other b.s. you keep spouting.
Posted on 6/3/20 at 4:58 pm to Korkstand
And what does any of that do to disprove that the numbers clearly show that this narrative of police hunting blacks and whites persecuting blacks is false. What does Asian crime rate have to do with the fact that the numbers stand in stark contrast to the narrative, in every instance?
Posted on 6/3/20 at 4:59 pm to Madking
quote:
Until you learn that you’re not the arbiter of fact you’ll lose everytime.
quote:Again, I am the one here pointing to the real official numbers and calling them the truth, and you and others are pointing to a lie and calling that the truth.
You don’t get to decide that official numbers are a lie while leftist sponsored stats are the end all.
quote:Hm, no, a better definition of bias is that the white/asian data works out similarly to the white/black data, yet no one is trying to paint asians as "21X" more violent against whites than vice versa. In fact none of you even acknowledge that fact because you're scared you will be exposed to reality.
You don’t get to set all the rules in your favor because you can’t win fare and square, that’s the definition of bias.
Posted on 6/3/20 at 4:59 pm to Caplewood
This is awesome
Posted on 6/3/20 at 5:00 pm to Korkstand
No you’re not you’re doing the opposite. What you’re saying has no bearing on the discussion. Asians aren’t destroying the country because they want segregation of law and finance.
This post was edited on 6/3/20 at 5:01 pm
Posted on 6/3/20 at 5:01 pm to Madking
quote:I have linked the data on nearly every page. Stop gaslighting.
You haven’t linked anything since you asked for me to obey you, stop lying. There are no exact calculations and your theories expose more than they prove.
Posted on 6/3/20 at 5:02 pm to Madking
quote:Nothing! Why don't you understand that?
And what does any of that do to disprove that the numbers clearly show that this narrative of police hunting blacks and whites persecuting blacks is false.
quote:The asian crime rate is an example of why the "45X" figure is bogus. Why don't you understand that?
What does Asian crime rate have to do with the fact that the numbers stand in stark contrast to the narrative, in every instance?
Posted on 6/3/20 at 5:03 pm to Korkstand
I guess when you set yourself to arguing anything provable you’re free to make up whatever insane lie you want. I notice you skip any post that debunks your bullshite. You only engage in arguing.
This post was edited on 6/3/20 at 5:05 pm
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