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re: “Relevant Statistics” Thread

Posted on 6/3/20 at 4:19 pm to
Posted by Korkstand
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 4:19 pm to
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Link? You’re in the thread guy
Then it should be easy to show where I've been disproven.
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He’s given totals you’re making up assumptions and guessing based on nothing and you can’t reconcile those same numbers when the totals are inverted to your theories. Somehow a magical new set of standards apply when the totals are flipped. It’s gaslighting or bullshite whichever you prefer.
What the hell are you talking about? That's a lot of deflection just to avoid commenting on the white/asian numbers that I posted at the top of page 9. Please, feel free to very them based on the same exact data source that OP's chart is from (found here, table 14), and tell me whether you feel that "21X" is a number that is in any way indicative of the threat that whites face from asians.

Or, you can be honest and say that number is meaningless and an obvious manipulation of reality.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 4:21 pm to
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It’s a simple test, if the “logic” he uses to dismiss or alter the police to white/black shooting numbers is real why doesn’t it apply to the murder rate of blacks killing whites? In other words if the bullshite he uses to deny that police shoot whites 1.5 more times than they shoot blacks he can’t excuse the fact that blacks murder whites at a 2-1 rate. It’s the same formula only he changes the numbers based on his politics so we know his entire argument is a lie.
I haven't made an argument about police shootings. In fact, I might have been asked specifically about the police at one point, and my answer was that they do NOT target one race over another. Congrats on further muddying the waters in order to disguise the fact that you're ignoring the truth of my real argument.
Posted by DemonKA3268
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 4:21 pm to
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What the hell are you talking about? That's a lot of deflection just to avoid commenting on the white/asian numbers that I posted at the top of page 9. Please, feel free to very them based on the same exact data source that OP's chart is from (found here, table 14), and tell me whether you feel that "21X" is a number that is in any way indicative of the threat that whites face from asians. Or, you can be honest and say that number is meaningless and an obvious manipulation of reality.


Crying "white/Asian"
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29062 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 4:22 pm to
I'll take that as a "no", you do not have a link. You'd rather just make up more lies and hope no one notices.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29062 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 4:23 pm to
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No, little bitches make up lies about other people and repeat them page after page.
Finally, you are admitting it. After all these pages and moronic paragraphs.

You may go now.
I'll admit that you're a little bitch all day every day. It's plain to see that's how you're acting. Your absolute refusal to address the topic, your repeated lies about me, your tendency to post gifs when you have no response.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
67195 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 4:24 pm to
That’s it send me on a treasure hunt you’ll just deny. You think I don’t know all the games? What am I talking about? Another deflection when it’s been clearly laid out, the numbers you’re trying to spin don’t all flow in the same direction so your “formulas” for disproving some of them actually reinforce others and disqualify your narrative. If your responses weren’t pre programmed you wouldn’t overlook such a simple and obvious flaw.
This post was edited on 6/3/20 at 4:26 pm
Posted by DemonKA3268
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Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 4:24 pm to
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I'll take that as a "no", you do not have a link. You'd rather just make up more lies and hope no one notices.


Okay, kettle. Again
Posted by DemonKA3268
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 4:26 pm to
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I'll admit that you're a little bitch all day every day. It's plain to see that's how you're acting. Your absolute refusal to address the topic, your repeated lies about me, your tendency to post gifs when you have no response.


And yet you keep responding

Name calling is always the sign of someone losing the fight.

Any other pearls of wisdom you want to throw out?

Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
67195 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 4:27 pm to
Look at the huge disparity in his responses, you can always tell when you’ve caught him, it goes from sermon to one sentence personal attacks in a heartbeat.
This post was edited on 6/3/20 at 4:29 pm
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29062 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 4:28 pm to
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Lol not hard, you apply different logic depending on whether it helps your political agenda or not. Just because you type paragraphs and formulas based on nothing doesn’t change the simple and obvious root of what you’re doing.
The obvious root of what I'm doing is pointing out the obvious root of deceitful charts.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29062 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 4:28 pm to
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Crying "white/Asian"
So you have no comment on that data? Not surprising since it doesn't fit your narrative.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
67195 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 4:30 pm to
So any statistic you don’t like is deceitful? Well that makes sense being that you’re a cultist.
Posted by DemonKA3268
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 4:30 pm to
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Look at the huge disparity in his responses, you can always tell when you’ve caught him, it goes from sermon to one sentence personal attacks in a heartbeat.


I'm going to keep letting him hang himself.

This is quite comical.
Posted by deuceiswild
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Member since Nov 2007
4590 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 4:32 pm to
I don't post very often, so in before "post less, anyway".

Anyways, y'all are doing Korkstand terribly wrong in this entire thread. In every instance where has explained numbers, stats, and how they work, he is correct. And he is also correct on the magnitude of the deception and has laid out exxactly why and how the numbers are manipulated.
I don't know this guy. You'll not find a single interaction I've had with him on here, but damn, y'all are insufferable. He is right!

That said, he can be right, and everyone who disagrees with him can also be right. And I believe that's the case here. Wanna say blacks perpetrate an unusually high percentage of crime for their population size? You're right. There's no debating this.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29062 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 4:33 pm to
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That’s it send me on a treasure hunt you’ll just deny.
Think how awesome that treasure would be, if you could finally produce something, anything of substance to prove me wrong. It would be amazing!

But no, you won't, because you will find that the white/asian math performed exactly like the white/black math produces a similarly outrageous number that has no basis in reality.
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the numbers you’re trying to spin don’t all flow in the same direction so your “formulas” for disproving some of them actually reinforce other and disqualify you’re narrative. If your responses weren’t ore programmed you wouldn’t overlook such a simple and obvious flaw.
If you would spend 1/10th the time verifying the numbers that I already provided to you and linked the source to as you do just talking shite, you would see that the calculations are bunk. And that they produce a result where the only purpose is to deceive and manipulate people. And you willingly fall for it.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
67195 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 4:34 pm to
He claims raw data is deceitful but that his guessing and supposing isn’t. Funny nobody on the opposite spectrum argues against this data. You don’t see conservatives saying it’s a lie that whites don’t kill whites at a high rate because we’re not taking into account made up scenarios.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
155181 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 4:36 pm to
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But if a black person were to commit a random crime, there is a 13%


Depends on the zip code.

Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
67195 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 4:37 pm to
I don’t need to go find what you want because the proof is constantly being thrown in your face as we speak. Plus you’ve proven over and over that you won’t accept reality so what’s the point? And you haven’t provided any numbers only theories based on unprovable irrelevant spin.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29062 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 4:38 pm to
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So any statistic you don’t like is deceitful?
Nope. Deceitful manipulation of statistics is deceitful.

Blacks commit more crime per capita than whites, and blacks commit more crime against whites than whites do against blacks. No doubt about it, the statistics speak for themselves. And we can and should have honest discussions about this.

But we canNOT have those discussions if both sides are blowing everything out of proportion. Be better than that, man. Start with the truth and move on from there.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
67195 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 4:40 pm to
“You fall for it”


Says the guy trying to invert reality at the alter of leftist ideology. Boy you’re a peach.
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