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Posted on 6/3/20 at 3:54 pm to Madking
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It’s literally all guessing and suspension of hard data which is where he lives. Should’ve seen him making up Coronavirus numbers when it first hit. This thing was gonna wipe us all out and he was cheering for it.
I will say this, he is really good at being wrong.
Posted on 6/3/20 at 3:56 pm to Madking
quote:Link? No one has dared comment on how the same data manipulation produces the result that asians are 21X more likely to commit violent crime against whites than whites are to commit violent crime against asians, which I posted at the top of page 9. Why do you think no one has commented on that?
Your entire stance has been disproven pages ago
Back to my very first post in this thread, it is so easy to manipulate statistics to push a narrative.
quote:So typical. I'm pointing out where OP is gaslighting, and I get accused of gaslighting. Same as all the projection and then accusing "the other side" of projection.
here you are gaslighting anyone who produces real evidence
Posted on 6/3/20 at 3:56 pm to DemonKA3268
Most people like him have an ugly reaction to facts but his life’s mission is to be dead set against them. It’s like a job for him to flood this place with communist propaganda.
Posted on 6/3/20 at 3:58 pm to Korkstand
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I haven't even looked at those yet
You ought to. There is a pretty obvious conclusion to be drawn.
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though a cursory glance shows that at least 2 more of them use similar techniques to compound the demographic differences to exaggerate proportions.
I don’t see where that is true.
Congrats on derailing the thread
Posted on 6/3/20 at 3:58 pm to thadcastle
quote:Wow, man. I am here arguing that few crimes are truly random, but you think I'm arguing that all or most are. Further, I am trying to explain that the only way to estimate the non-random component of crime is to compare it to what truly random crime would look like. Do you understand?
See this is where we disagree. Because no crimes are truly random, every decision has some subconscious thought put into it. And if I had to guess looks would be the first thing someone notices and subconsciously selects a person to commit a crime against. You are removing the decision making and treating them as if there is not a decision and it is completely random.
Posted on 6/3/20 at 3:59 pm to Korkstand
Link? You’re in the thread guy
And no he’s not you are. He’s given totals you’re making up assumptions and guessing based on nothing and you can’t reconcile those same numbers when the totals are inverted to your theories. Somehow a magical new set of standards apply when the totals are flipped. It’s gaslighting or bullshite whichever you prefer.
And no he’s not you are. He’s given totals you’re making up assumptions and guessing based on nothing and you can’t reconcile those same numbers when the totals are inverted to your theories. Somehow a magical new set of standards apply when the totals are flipped. It’s gaslighting or bullshite whichever you prefer.
Posted on 6/3/20 at 3:59 pm to Madking
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Most people like him have an ugly reaction to facts but his life’s mission is to be dead set against them. It’s like a job for him to flood this place with communist propaganda.
He's a persistent little bastard, that's for sure.
Crying about manipulating while trying to manipulate, that makes perfect sense.
Posted on 6/3/20 at 4:04 pm to DemonKA3268
It’s a simple test, if the “logic” he uses to dismiss or alter the police to white/black shooting numbers is real why doesn’t it apply to the murder rate of blacks killing whites? In other words if the bullshite he uses to deny that police shoot whites 1.5 more times than they shoot blacks he can’t excuse the fact that blacks murder whites at a 2-1 rate. It’s the same formula only he changes the numbers based on his politics so we know his entire argument is a lie.
This post was edited on 6/3/20 at 4:07 pm
Posted on 6/3/20 at 4:05 pm to thadcastle
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only a 13% chance that it will be against a black person. But if a black person were to commit a random crime, there is a 13% chance on average that it will be against another black person, and a 61% chance that it will be a white person.
See this is where we disagree. Because no crimes are truly random, every decision has some subconscious thought put into it. And if I had to guess looks would be the first thing someone notices and subconsciously selects a person to commit a crime against. You are removing the decision making and treating them as if there is not a decision and it is completely random.
That’s a huge charge. So the reason white on white crime is so much higher than white on black crime is because white people prefer to violently victimize white people. That is a new theory I have never heard.
Or I am going to not believe it has anything to do to with the color of someone’s skin.
This post was edited on 6/3/20 at 4:09 pm
Posted on 6/3/20 at 4:05 pm to Vacherie Saint
quote:It is not simplistic. Determining the random component of the data is a necessary step in determining the non-random (and possibly racially-motivated) component of the data. Do you understand this concept?quote:This is laughably simplistic and shows that you are an unintelligent and shallow thinker.
If a white person were to commit a random crime, there is a 61% chance on average that it will be against another white person, and only a 13% chance that it will be against a black person. But if a black person were to commit a random crime, there is a 13% chance on average that it will be against another black person, and a 61% chance that it will be a white person.
This is also the first step in explaining that if you choose subsets of data that already have a demographically-proportional component, adjusting that data again demographically will compound that randomness on top of itself. It is deceptive and does not reflect reality.
See my post where I did the same analysis with whites/asians.
Posted on 6/3/20 at 4:07 pm to DemonKA3268
quote:Because I'm asking you to.
Why would I report you?
quote:No, little bitches make up lies about other people and repeat them page after page.
That's what little bitches do.
Posted on 6/3/20 at 4:07 pm to Madking
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It’s a simple test, if the “logic” he uses to dismiss or alter the police to white/black shooting numbers is real why doesn’t it apply to the murder rate of blacks killing whites. In other words if the bull shite he uses to deny that police shoot whites 1.5 more times than they shoot blacks he can’t excuse the fact that blacks murder whites at a 2-1 rate. His “magical math” would cause the rate to accelerate exponentially and we know he denies it so we know his entire argument is a lie.
Yep but why is he still babbling about it? Their are no points given here. I bet he was loads of fun as a child.
Posted on 6/3/20 at 4:07 pm to Madking
quote:Got a link? No, of course you don't.
Should’ve seen him making up Coronavirus numbers when it first hit. This thing was gonna wipe us all out and he was cheering for it.
You're as much a liar as Demon here.
Posted on 6/3/20 at 4:08 pm to Korkstand
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Got a link?
Posted on 6/3/20 at 4:08 pm to Madking
quote:TIL that telling the truth makes you a communist propagandist. And also that manipulating racial crime statistics makes you a good American, apparently.
It’s like a job for him to flood this place with communist propaganda.
Posted on 6/3/20 at 4:09 pm to Korkstand
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No, little bitches make up lies about other people and repeat them page after page.
Finally, you are admitting it. After all these pages and moronic paragraphs.
You may go now.
Posted on 6/3/20 at 4:12 pm to OceanMan
quote:I've seen all the relevant data. Like I've posted numerous times, it's all here. I don't need deceitful infographics to manipulate that data for me in order to get the facts.
You ought to. There is a pretty obvious conclusion to be drawn.
quote:I'm sure you don't. Like most here, you don't care to look or think beyond the spoon-fed manipulative charts in order to understand reality.
I don’t see where that is true.
quote:I've been on topic throughout. I see several others saying nothing about the topic and instead are just attacking me. And I'm derailing the thread?
Congrats on derailing the thread
Posted on 6/3/20 at 4:12 pm to DemonKA3268
Lol not hard, you apply different logic depending on whether it helps your political agenda or not. Just because you type paragraphs and formulas based on nothing doesn’t change the simple and obvious root of what you’re doing.
Posted on 6/3/20 at 4:14 pm to Madking
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Lol not hard, you apply different logic depending on whether it helps your political agenda or not. Just because you type paragraphs and formulas based on nothing doesn’t change the simple and obvious root of what you’re doing.
Yeah, that's true. If he wants to keep making a fool of himself, let him.
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