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re: “Relevant Statistics” Thread

Posted on 6/3/20 at 3:15 pm to
Posted by dgnx6
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 3:15 pm to
69% of arrests every year are whites.

If you live in a county that majority of whites commit violent crimes, they are more likely to be killed by cops. If you live in a county where majority of blacks commit violent crimes, they are more likely to be killed by cops
Posted by alphaandomega
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 3:17 pm to
Math, graphs, and statistics are racist.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 3:17 pm to
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exaggerates the numbers accordingly


No.
Posted by thadcastle
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 3:24 pm to
See but your whole premise is based off of 100% random and does not take in human nature at all. Are you saying criminals are attacking 100% randomly without any type of subconscious telling them a certain person is best to attack?
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29062 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 3:26 pm to
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Amazing how you stopped using your alter after you were called out on it.
I cannot describe how hilariously perfect it is that you are pushing this false narrative with no evidence, and refuse to even try to acquire evidence even after I begged you to seek it, in a thread where I'm telling you that OP is doing the exact same thing you are.

I have laid it all out for you how you the data is manipulated, but rather than address it you just keep pushing this other lie about me having alters. Telling.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 3:28 pm to
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how do you control for incidents in areas where they are not the majority?
If anyone wants to produce local level data, we can certainly look at it.

What's that got to do with OP promoting a manipulative narrative that is a blatant distortion of the data we do have?
Posted by DemonKA3268
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 3:31 pm to
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I cannot describe how hilariously perfect it is that you are pushing this false narrative with no evidence, and refuse to even try to acquire evidence even after I begged you to seek it, in a thread where I'm telling you that OP is doing the exact same thing you are. I have laid it all out for you how you the data is manipulated, but rather than address it you just keep pushing this other lie about me having alters. Telling.


Okay, Einstein, how exactly would the admins be able to tell anyone that you do or don't have an alter? Are you really that stupid?

Keep trying to say you don't, it's okay. We all know.

You are the only person on this thread that is crying about manipulation of data. So, you expect everyone on here to believe you because you just "know" you are right? GTFO with that lunacy.

Your problem is you don't know when to quit, I'm sure your husband just loves that.
This post was edited on 6/3/20 at 3:36 pm
Posted by DemonKA3268
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 3:34 pm to
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What's that got to do with OP promoting a manipulative narrative that is a blatant distortion of the data we do have?


dorkstand still


And back to his alter as well
This post was edited on 6/3/20 at 3:41 pm
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29062 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 3:41 pm to
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See but your whole premise is based off of 100% random
No, it's not.
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Are you saying criminals are attacking 100% randomly without any type of subconscious telling them a certain person is best to attack?
Nope. What you should have gleaned from my use of randomness is that we can extract from that the extent to which violence might be race-related, rather than due to random demographic chance. Get it?

Let me try again to explain the concept. If a white person were to commit a random crime, there is a 61% chance on average that it will be against another white person, and only a 13% chance that it will be against a black person. But if a black person were to commit a random crime, there is a 13% chance on average that it will be against another black person, and a 61% chance that it will be a white person. We are choosing a smaller subset of white crime than we are black crime. And by choosing a differently-scaled subset for whites vs blacks, this data already has a demographically distorted component. If we multiply those cherry-picked subsets of data again by demographics, we are multiplying whatever the racially-motivated component is again. It compounds the discrepancy on top of itself, and in the case of this graphic this is done intentionally in order to deceive.


Posted by DemonKA3268
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 3:43 pm to
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Nope. What you should have gleaned from my use of randomness is that we can extract from that the extent to which violence might be race-related, rather than due to random demographic chance. Get it? Let me try again to explain the concept. If a white person were to commit a random crime, there is a 61% chance on average that it will be against another white person, and only a 13% chance that it will be against a black person. But if a black person were to commit a random crime, there is a 13% chance on average that it will be against another black person, and a 61% chance that it will be a white person. We are choosing a smaller subset of white crime than we are black crime. And by choosing a differently-scaled subset for whites vs blacks, this data already has a demographically distorted component. If we multiply those cherry-picked subsets of data again by demographics, we are multiplying whatever the racially-motivated component is again. It compounds the discrepancy on top of itself, and in the case of this graphic this is done intentionally in order to deceive.




Dorkstand: "I have explained it over and over and they still say I am wrong. Why won't they believe me?"

Perhaps you aren't explaining it well enough. Just a thought.
This post was edited on 6/3/20 at 3:46 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
67195 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 3:47 pm to
Your entire stance has been disproven pages ago yet here you are gaslighting anyone who produces real evidence. It’s not hard to just mind read and say data is infected by bias. That’s not an argument no matter how long you ramble about it. What’s funny is the bias only flows one way with you and it’s always in a political direction. You’re the biggest fraud I’ve ever seen on this board.
This post was edited on 6/3/20 at 3:48 pm
Posted by thadcastle
Member since Dec 2019
2842 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 3:48 pm to
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only a 13% chance that it will be against a black person. But if a black person were to commit a random crime, there is a 13% chance on average that it will be against another black person, and a 61% chance that it will be a white person.

See this is where we disagree. Because no crimes are truly random, every decision has some subconscious thought put into it. And if I had to guess looks would be the first thing someone notices and subconsciously selects a person to commit a crime against. You are removing the decision making and treating them as if there is not a decision and it is completely random.
This post was edited on 6/3/20 at 3:49 pm
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29062 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 3:48 pm to
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Okay, Einstein, how exactly would the admins be able to tell anyone that you do or don't have an alter? Are you really that stupid?
The admins could very well have access to our IP data. The admin version of the site could easily list suspected alters based on IP address next to every handle. That just depends on whether Chicken / Circus Child wrote the code for that. At the very least Chicken or Circus Child certainly have access to that information. You are free to report me and my suspected alters by emailing them, if you are that confident about it.
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Keep trying to say you don't, it's okay. We all know.
You seem to "know" a lot of things that aren't so.
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You are the only person on this thread that is crying about manipulation of data.
I'm doing my best to explain to others that they are being manipulated. It's hard work.
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So, you expect everyone on here to believe you because you just "know" you are right? GTFO with that lunacy.
I expect at least some people to recognize the truth, yes.
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Your problem is you don't know when to quit
You're right here with me. Difference is I'm laying out logical arguments and you're just posting gifs.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29062 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 3:50 pm to
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Perhaps you aren't explaining it well enough. Just a thought.
Is it more likely that adults can't understand a concept explained at a 3rd grade level, or that said adults simply don't want to understand?
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46569 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 3:50 pm to
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If a white person were to commit a random crime, there is a 61% chance on average that it will be against another white person, and only a 13% chance that it will be against a black person. But if a black person were to commit a random crime, there is a 13% chance on average that it will be against another black person, and a 61% chance that it will be a white person.


This is laughably simplistic and shows that you are an unintelligent and shallow thinker.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
67195 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 3:51 pm to
Lmao 2 upvotes for everyone of his post and 2 downvotes for everyone opposed.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46569 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 3:52 pm to
Means kork has an alter.
Posted by DemonKA3268
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Member since Oct 2015
21155 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 3:52 pm to
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The admins could very well have access to our IP data. The admin version of the site could easily list suspected alters based on IP address next to every handle. That just depends on whether Chicken / Circus Child wrote the code for that. At the very least Chicken or Circus Child certainly have access to that information. You are free to report me and my suspected alters by emailing them, if you are that confident about it.


Why would I report you? That's what little bitches do. You aren't hurting me in any way. Now, I can't say the same for yourself.

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You seem to "know" a lot of things that aren't so.


Because you say so?

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I'm doing my best to explain to others that they are being manipulated. It's hard work.
Well, it seems your best just isn't good enough.

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I expect at least some people to recognize the truth, yes.
Whose truth? It seems you want it to be your way and that's it.

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You're right here with me. Difference is I'm laying out logical arguments and you're just posting gifs.

Yep, I love it when fools keep responding. You can't help yourself.

Have a great day!
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
67195 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 3:53 pm to
It’s literally all guessing and suspension of hard data which is where he lives. Should’ve seen him making up Coronavirus numbers when it first hit. This thing was gonna wipe us all out and he was cheering for it.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
67195 posts
Posted on 6/3/20 at 3:53 pm to
Or a partner
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