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re: “Relevant Statistics” Thread

Posted on 6/3/20 at 2:52 pm to
Posted by DemonKA3268
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 2:52 pm to
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You have nothing but lies. Zero honesty and zero integrity. And zero balls to address address the truth.


According to who? You?



Posted by dstone12
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 2:52 pm to
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The only intent is to manipulate


Pretty sure that one death that will be properly vindicated Caused:

Over 20 deaths
Billions in damage
The Ripping this country apart.


Now you are manipulating words.
Posted by DemonKA3268
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 2:53 pm to
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Pretty sure that one death that will be properly vindicated Caused: Over 20 deaths Billions in damage The Ripping this country apart. Now you are manipulating words.


It's his party, let him cry if he wants to.
Posted by OceanMan
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 2:54 pm to
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So tell me, what does the result "45X" mean, and also tell me whether you think the result "21X" for asians means the same thing.

That arithmetic has the effect of exponentially blowing out of proportion the difference in relative population. The only intent is to manipulate.


You still going on about this? There were about 10-20 graphics and tables that followed that one, citing reputable sources, that all support similar trends with no manipulation.




Posted by Korkstand
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 2:57 pm to
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According to who? You?
According to reality.
Posted by DemonKA3268
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 2:59 pm to
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According to reality.


Of which, yours is truly distorted.

You have had your arse handed to you multiple times and you still aren't smart enough to stop your lunacy.

They make medication for stuff like this, I suggest you check into that.
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 3:00 pm to
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If you make the statement that people are not picking victims due to race then you accept the lower number. Race is a horrible way to look at the statistics as the color of someone’s skin has nothing significantly to do with any of it in these times


Wait a second. We are to believe that police routinely and systematically abuse blacks because they are black (despite that the number of blacks being harmed by cops is proportional to the crime committed by blacks), but when we are presented with data that shows that blacks disproportionately target whites, we are to believe that the race of the victim has nothing to do with the crime?

This is the kind of one-sided thinking that plagues this discussion and turns truth into anathema.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 3:03 pm to
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You still going on about this? There were about 10-20 graphics and tables that followed that one, citing reputable sources, that all support similar trends with no manipulation.
I haven't even looked at those yet, though a cursory glance shows that at least 2 more of them use similar techniques to compound the demographic differences to exaggerate proportions.

But yes, here we are 13 pages in and still only 2 posters have even come remotely close to accepting the obvious truth about how manipulative the very first and by far most prominent graphic in the OP is. I don't get why it's too much to ask that we use actual data (which clearly shows the trends you mention!) rather than blatantly manipulated data.
Posted by Korkstand
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 3:04 pm to
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Of which, yours is truly distorted.
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You have had your arse handed to you multiple times and you still aren't smart enough to stop your lunacy.
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 3:04 pm to
What are you doing?
Posted by DemonKA3268
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 3:05 pm to
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But yes, here we are 13 pages in and still only 2 posters have even come remotely close to accepting the obvious truth about how manipulative the very first and by far most prominent graphic in the OP is. I don't get why it's too much to ask that we use actual data (which clearly shows the trends you mention!) rather than blatantly manipulated data.




Posted by DemonKA3268
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 3:06 pm to
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What are you doing?


It's pretty obvious that even he doesn't know the answer to that.
Posted by DemonKA3268
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 3:07 pm to
I would laugh too.

Only fools would keep trying and failing, over and over and over...

At least you are only downvoting once now. That's good, you can be taught.
This post was edited on 6/3/20 at 3:11 pm
Posted by Korkstand
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 3:13 pm to
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Wait a second. We are to believe that police routinely and systematically abuse blacks because they are black (despite that the number of blacks being harmed by cops is proportional to the crime committed by blacks)
No.
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but when we are presented with data that shows that blacks disproportionately target whites, we are to believe that the race of the victim has nothing to do with the crime?
No, what you should believe and understand is that strictly by virtue of being the majority, white people will be the victim of disproportionately more random (non race-related) crime. And what you should also understand is that selecting only interracial crime is already representative of the demographics, so "adjusting" again for demographics compounds and exaggerates the numbers accordingly.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 3:13 pm to
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What are you doing?
Having a blast. You?
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 3:14 pm to
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Only fools would keep trying and failing, over and over and over...
So oblivious. I'm starting to feel sorry for you.
Posted by DemonKA3268
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 3:14 pm to
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Being an obtuse dumbarse. You?


You should really learn how to spell correctly.
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 3:14 pm to
#metoo
Posted by DemonKA3268
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 3:15 pm to
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So oblivious


Okay kettle...

Amazing how you stopped using your alter after you were called out on it.
This post was edited on 6/3/20 at 3:16 pm
Posted by Mithridates6
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 3:15 pm to
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No, what you should believe and understand is that strictly by virtue of being the majority, white people will be the victim of disproportionately more random (non race-related) crime.

Hardly a majority, and how do you control for incidents in areas where they are not the majority?
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