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re: Rand Paul is the Person to Beat in Colorado
Posted on 4/24/14 at 11:20 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
Posted on 4/24/14 at 11:20 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
He's a liberty guy.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 11:21 am to a want
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Paul may be the best bet to beat Hillary (assuming she runs) BUT:
You have to run for president for 2 years. That's a long haul that favors experienced politicians.* Unfortunately, elections are more of a contest of who can gaff the least. Paul is a relative newcomber. The straight-talk that you like about him is also likely to get him in trouble. I just think he's going to have a hard time getting out of the primary.
* Preemptive response: Yes, I know Obama's experience as a community organizer.... Hillary led the majority of that campaign so he didn't have to be in the spotlight. Plus he's an outstanding politician and he had the W factor going for him when it came to independents/moderate voters.
It is also very hard to be elected in recent years, with the exception of Obama, when you come from Congress and actually vote. The voting record of candidates while in Congress gives ammo to the opposition to tear them apart. It is very hard to spend any time there without contradicting oneself a few times and there is a record for everyone to see. This is why governors have such success running for Pres. Name recogntion but no voting record to dissect.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 11:23 am to RollTide4Ever
That doesn't mean much to me.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 11:25 am to DanTiger
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This is why governors have such success running for Pres
Yep.
Jeb Bush or Rick Perry would by my picks to get the nomination. I actually think Bush won't run and Perry will get it. Seriously.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 11:28 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
I need to know if he considers the national debt the single biggest issue the country faces and if he does, would he be serious about entitlement reform and support letting the bush tax cuts fully expire.
If he views the debt as issue #1 and wants to fix it with a combination of spending cuts that definitely include entitlement reform and higher taxes through elimination of the bush tax cuts, he has my vote. Don't GAF what he thinks about anything else.
If he views the debt as issue #1 and wants to fix it with a combination of spending cuts that definitely include entitlement reform and higher taxes through elimination of the bush tax cuts, he has my vote. Don't GAF what he thinks about anything else.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 11:30 am to a want
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Perry will get it. Seriously.
Not if video of this ever surfaces.
Perry graduated from Paint Creek High School in 1968. He then attended Texas A&M University, where he was a member of the Corps of Cadets, a member of the Alpha Gamma Rho fraternity, was elected senior class social secretary, and was also elected as one of A&M's five yell leaders
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Posted on 4/24/14 at 11:30 am to a want
If it's not Paul, it's going to be Jeb Bush or the outside shot of Scott Walker imo. We've all met Perry and he's been mostly non-impressive. Jeb Bush is being really underrated right now though. His last name is a detriment but he's clearly the Bush that has the talent.
I do think Paul has a pretty good shot to get the nomination though. He's got a fresh message and if you believe all the talk on here the average conservative is hungry for something new.
I do think Paul has a pretty good shot to get the nomination though. He's got a fresh message and if you believe all the talk on here the average conservative is hungry for something new.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 11:32 am to Duke
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I do think Paul has a pretty good shot to get the nomination though. He's got a fresh message and if you believe all the talk on here the average conservative is hungry for something new.
I agree, but IMO he would need to emerge late as the favorite (like Obama).
Posted on 4/24/14 at 11:37 am to a want
There's no front runner at this point. If he doesn't have to fight off a strong TP candidate he'll have a pretty steady base of TP and libertarian types. Just hope the establishment and holy rollers get split (which looks somewhat likely). Two years out though, so many variables to consider.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 11:38 am to a want
Rand is going to run away with this thing, imo. I've been pumping this guy since 2010.
Jeb is a dead-end, I don't care if he's some mensa-level intellect, folks are tired of that family.
Walker already has some dirt in his background.
I would guess that Rand has three issues on his plate above everything else: federal debt, civil liberties, and economy. I can see Gary Johnson being in his administration as well as someone like John Monds, Ben Carson, Peter Schiff, and Jim Rickards. I also see him issuing executive orders on putting gold/silver back into our currency, while doing entitlement reform as well as selling off gov't properties (i think fed. gov't owns 1/3 of land in the u.s.) in order to pay down the debt. Worst case scenario, we'll default but to a much smaller degree. I also see him being a heckuva alot less aggressive in fp.
Jeb is a dead-end, I don't care if he's some mensa-level intellect, folks are tired of that family.
Walker already has some dirt in his background.
I would guess that Rand has three issues on his plate above everything else: federal debt, civil liberties, and economy. I can see Gary Johnson being in his administration as well as someone like John Monds, Ben Carson, Peter Schiff, and Jim Rickards. I also see him issuing executive orders on putting gold/silver back into our currency, while doing entitlement reform as well as selling off gov't properties (i think fed. gov't owns 1/3 of land in the u.s.) in order to pay down the debt. Worst case scenario, we'll default but to a much smaller degree. I also see him being a heckuva alot less aggressive in fp.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 11:45 am to RollTide4Ever
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Jeb is a dead-end, I don't care if he's some mensa-level intellect, folks are tired of that family.
The name is still way too toxic.
The next Bush who would have any kind of a shot on a national stage would be Jeb's son in maybe 10 years. That kid has potential.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 11:51 am to RollTide4Ever
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Walker already has some dirt in his background
This only matters to the media if he's a Republican.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 11:52 am to RollTide4Ever
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issuing executive orders on putting gold/silver back into our currency
No thanks.
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doing entitlement reform as well as selling off gov't properties (i think fed. gov't owns 1/3 of land in the u.s.) in order to pay down the debt.
Yes please.
This post was edited on 4/24/14 at 11:53 am
Posted on 4/24/14 at 11:54 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
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I need to know if he considers the national debt the single biggest issue the country faces and if he does, would he be serious about entitlement reform and support letting the bush tax cuts fully expire.
If he views the debt as issue #1 and wants to fix it with a combination of spending cuts that definitely include entitlement reform and higher taxes through elimination of the bush tax cuts, he has my vote. Don't GAF what he thinks about anything else.
What about military spending? Is that a sacred cow for you?
Posted on 4/24/14 at 11:59 am to trackfan
Cut military spending.
I am pro-military and generally pro us whupping some arse as needed, but it just isn't necessary to spend what we do anymore. Also, the way money is budgeted to the military infuriates me. Certain areas get X amount appropriated and they have to make sure to spend (waste) all of it or they lose it and the amount gets reduced the following year.
I had a client a while back that went from nothing to multi-millionaire in a few years off bloated government contracts, so I have seen how it works.
I am pro-military and generally pro us whupping some arse as needed, but it just isn't necessary to spend what we do anymore. Also, the way money is budgeted to the military infuriates me. Certain areas get X amount appropriated and they have to make sure to spend (waste) all of it or they lose it and the amount gets reduced the following year.
I had a client a while back that went from nothing to multi-millionaire in a few years off bloated government contracts, so I have seen how it works.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 12:06 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
the gold/silver angle is important b/c countries like China and Russia can use our fiat currency against us. It's the big elephant in the room.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 12:07 pm to RollTide4Ever
I don't know enough to comment on the subject TBH.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 12:07 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
The things that scares me about Paul is that if he wins he will meet resistance from both parties and will not be able to deliver on any of his campaign promises. Remember that congress writes our laws and not the pres so he needs support to get things done. When he starts proposing cuts all of congress will run for cover like cock roaches when a light is turned on. I am just worried they will shut him down and he will be a one term POTUS that is not allowed to accomplish anything. I guess I should worry about getting him elected first and worry about the rest later ![](https://images.tigerdroppings.com/Images/Icons/IconLOL.gif)
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Posted on 4/24/14 at 12:11 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
Read "The Death of Money" by Rickards.
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