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re: Rand Paul demands Dems return money raised by "sexual predator" Bill Clinton

Posted on 2/7/14 at 4:07 pm to
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 4:07 pm to
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NC_Tigah, the casual and light way in which you refer to Ms. Lewinsky's sexual violation
Her sexual what?

Spidy, you've experienced an epiphany!
Good for you.


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The language I used was intended to convey the malignant antipathy both Clinton's exhibited toward Lewinsky as she became a liability.


Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 4:13 pm to
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The NYT says you are mistaken.

What do they know?
'They' know Paul is neither in the gutter, nor running against a straw man. 'They' know people are tired of hypocrisy, and Paul is effectively tagging Dems as hypocrites. The supposed War on Women being decried by defenders of sexual predation is exactly 'this sort of shite.'


This post was edited on 2/7/14 at 4:15 pm
Posted by asurob1
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 4:15 pm to
I could care less what consenting adults do...they were both adults...they both consented.

What I did care about was the fact that he looked straight in a camera and lied about it.

That being said...this is a pretty stupid move by Rand.

20 years ago sure.

But now it smacks of "Im desperate".
Posted by vodkacop
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 4:15 pm to
No point in arguing with these clowns NC. Everything you say will be flipped and turned. Tuba is the biggest troll around. He can't possibly fathom why saying this will hurt Bills credibility. Even though Bill is helping in a senatorial race in 2014. Helping a woman mind you. Rand pointing out bill as a womanizing sexual predator doesn't compute to him. He worships all things Clinton and Obama. Its actually very disgusting how these simple minded folks can still support that rapist Bill Clinton



Posted by asurob1
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 4:17 pm to
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how these simple minded folks can still support that rapist Bill Clinton


I hate all things Clinton.

I would never vote for Bill. And it was wonderful watching Hillary get her arse kicked in 2008.

That being said.

Who exactly did Bill rape?

Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 4:23 pm to
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Who exactly did Bill rape?
Posted by asurob1
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 4:25 pm to
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Who exactly did Bill rape?




Though he is a republican so I'm sure you blindly pulled the lever for him.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 4:26 pm to
I voted Perot
Posted by trackfan
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 4:32 pm to
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A highschool girl "hits" on her teacher. Fair game?
A sergeant "hits" on her battalion officer. Fair game?

What I'm saying is that Clinton was wrong to take Lewinsky upon her offer, but he wasn't guilty of sexual harassment with reguards to her either.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 4:33 pm to
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Who exactly did Bill rape?
Kathleen Willey

This post was edited on 2/7/14 at 5:48 pm
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 4:44 pm to
In order to beat the dem/media machine,
he is going to have to take some big risks.

Playing "I'm a nice guy like Mitt Romney," won't cut it.

It's the only way.

Posted by asurob1
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 4:45 pm to
In 2007 she said he didn't rape her.



Either way he is a scumbag and an embarrassment to the Oval Office.

But Rand is making a gigantic mistake here.
Posted by Decatur
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 4:45 pm to
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quote:
Who exactly did Bill rape?

Kathleen Willey



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According to Willey, during a meeting in the private study of the Oval Office, Clinton had embraced her tightly, kissed her on the mouth.


Ummm...

Also

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The Final Report of the U.S. Office of the Independent Counsel report noted that "Willey gave false information to the FBI about her sexual relationship with a former boyfriend, and acknowledged having lied about it when the agents confronted her with contradictory evidence. Following Willey’s acknowledgment of the lie, the Independent Counsel agreed not to prosecute her for false statements in this regard."[3] According to Independent Counsel Robert Ray’s report, "Willey’s [Paula] Jones deposition testimony differed from her grand jury testimony on material aspects of the alleged incident."[4]


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Willey has a history of controversial claims including telling the FBI she was pregnant and she had a miscarriage when she did not.[7]


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Willey's second husband, Edward E. Willey Jr., committed suicide on November 29, 1993 — the same day that she had claimed Clinton's sexual misconduct took place. She has written in her book and also said in an interview in 60 Minutes that she suspected that the Clintons murdered her husband just as they allegedly did to Vince Foster, another aide to the Clintons, who actually committed suicide.


Wiki
Posted by Decatur
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 4:49 pm to
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But the disturbing story of twins both unborn and unconceived is the most damaging yet to a witness described as pivotal in Kenneth Starr's investigation of Clinton. For, as with Docking, Willey again asked Steele to engage in an elaborate deception, this time at the President's expense.

Steele claims Willey asked her to lie to Newsweek reporter Michael Isikoff about her alleged encounter with Clinton. Last spring Willey called Steele and asked her if Isikoff could come over to interview her. While Isikoff was on his way, Steele says, Willey called back and "told me exactly what to say." The directive: tell Isikoff the President had groped her on Nov. 29, 1993, and that Willey had rushed to Steele's house in the aftermath quite distraught. "I went along with it," Steele told TIME. "It was terrible, but Kathy and I were friends for 20 years, and she told me it wouldn't matter, that the whole thing was off the record anyway." Steele says that Willey never rushed over to see her on the day of the encounter, that she wasn't told of Willey's Oval Office visit until weeks after it occurred, that she was simply left with the impression that there might have been "mutual affection" between Clinton and Willey but nothing sexual. And Willey was not upset. Steele told her friend that Isikoff said Willey was tearful when relating the tale of the alleged groping to him. In response, Steele says, Willey laughed.


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Posted by Decatur
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 4:50 pm to
Anyone else?
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 5:07 pm to
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Anyone else?
Ah, so Bernie Madoff never bilked anyone . . . . until it was proven. Likewise, an affair would eliminate possibility of rape at some point by another man?

Are you serious?

Let's see. You fret over a joke about a hair on a coke can, but not over a woman's claim of rape? Each equally provable/unprovable. Yet you claim your attack on a possible rape victim is not a War on Women.

You're not doing well Decatur.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 5:13 pm to
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You fret over a joke about a hair on a coke can,


Wat?

quote:

but not over a woman's claim of rape?


It was a claim of groping/kissing

quote:

You're not doing well Decatur.


yeah ok
Posted by vodkacop
Louisiana
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 5:17 pm to
Here we go ASURob denying he's no Clinton supporter. Again. Every topic that comes up about Bill, Rob comes in and starts with exactly the same statement:

I am not a Clinton supporter...blah blah blah

Then supports him and crucifies anyone who has the audacity to speak so badly of his hero..err I mean the guy he doesn't support or like.
Posted by vodkacop
Louisiana
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8030 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 5:22 pm to
For the party that is supposedly for women's rights y'all sure do love to throw dirt on them when they make accusations against ASURobs beloved Bill. Sure its easy to tear down the woman in y'alls eyes instead of stopping Bills predatory ways. Y'all sound like the rapist who sits in front of the judge yelling "She had it coming your honor. She was wearing tight mini skirt and was coming on to me."

Enablers. Another great term we can apply to "Progressives" like y'all.
Posted by Decatur
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 5:25 pm to
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For the party that is supposedly for women's rights y'all sure do love to throw dirt on them when they make accusations


When someone is caught lying to the FBI multiple times, I think it's safe to have doubts about their veracity
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