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Racist Police Violence Reconsidered
Posted on 6/12/20 at 12:59 am
Posted on 6/12/20 at 12:59 am
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Tony Timpa was 32 years old when he died at the hands of the Dallas police in August 2016. He suffered from mental health difficulties and was unarmed. He wasn’t resisting arrest. He had called the cops from a parking lot while intoxicated because he thought he might be a danger to himself. By the time law enforcement arrived, he had already been handcuffed by the security guards of a store nearby. Even so, the police officers made him lie face down on the grass, and one of them pressed a knee into his back. He remained in this position for 13 minutes until he suffocated. During the harrowing recording of his final moments, he can be heard pleading for his life. A grand jury indictment of the officers involved was overturned.
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Not many people have seen this video, however, and that may have something to do with the fact that Timpa was white. During the protests and agonizing discussions about police brutality that have followed the death of George Floyd under remarkably similar circumstances, it is too seldom acknowledged that white men are regularly killed by the cops as well, and that occasionally the cops responsible are black (as it happens, one of the Dallas police officers at the scene of Timpa’s death was an African American). There seems to be a widespread assumption that, under similar circumstances, white cops kill black people but not white people, and that this disparity is either the product of naked racism or underlying racist bias that emerges under pressure. Plenty of evidence indicates, however, that racism is less important to understanding police behavior than is commonly supposed.
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John fricking McWhorter (black Columbia professor) FTW.
ETA: McWhorter and Loury podcast discussing the very same thing
This post was edited on 6/12/20 at 10:30 am
Posted on 6/12/20 at 1:11 am to Big Scrub TX
Love listening to his podcast w/ Glen Loury.
Also, ask the average person who Daniel Shaver was. It was an execution. No protests, no riots, no looting...even though the cop got off.
He was white, so it didn't matter, apparently.
Also, ask the average person who Daniel Shaver was. It was an execution. No protests, no riots, no looting...even though the cop got off.
He was white, so it didn't matter, apparently.
Posted on 6/12/20 at 1:11 am to Big Scrub TX
Wait, wait, wait, wait -- You now want to bring facts into the "discussion"?
Clearly, you are a racist!
Clearly, you are a racist!
Posted on 6/12/20 at 1:15 am to Big Scrub TX
I haven’t met a person yet that doesn’t want serious police reform. We all know they have to much power with very little oversight. But getting rid of the police is down right suicidal. Not to mention the never ending “white privilege” so on an so forth.
Posted on 6/12/20 at 2:22 am to Dustydubs
Super trump fan here, I believe in freedom and liberty. Police have too much power, reform is needed, not defunding and not abolishment. They don't need to be outfitted like the military and they don't need to be acting like Rambo like in OP situation.
Posted on 6/12/20 at 2:30 am to Big Scrub TX
We need serious police reform in this nation, they are bullies and a revenue generating entity by and large, but the narrative that there is systemic racism in this country is so false its barely worth refuting
Posted on 6/12/20 at 2:35 am to Big Scrub TX
Even living in Texas, I’d never heard of Tony Timpa until after the Floyd riots. I’m not sure it received any coverage outside of Dallas.
Posted on 6/12/20 at 2:43 am to Strannix
Police departments will come out of this stronger than ever.
I also think the police are arrogant and pick on whites often. It’s an economic thing, not a race thing. They treat everyone like shite who isn’t connected.
It’s clear that if white people were outraged to the degree that black folks are, that they would cease being overly aggressive. But instead, white people are doubling down on supporting the police blindly.
I do not agree with the rioting and looting, but it’s definitely getting the establishment to bend over backwards out of fear.
I also think the police are arrogant and pick on whites often. It’s an economic thing, not a race thing. They treat everyone like shite who isn’t connected.
It’s clear that if white people were outraged to the degree that black folks are, that they would cease being overly aggressive. But instead, white people are doubling down on supporting the police blindly.
I do not agree with the rioting and looting, but it’s definitely getting the establishment to bend over backwards out of fear.
Posted on 6/12/20 at 2:45 am to texashorn
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It’s clear that if white people were outraged to the degree that black folks are, that they would cease being overly aggressive. But instead, white people are doubling down on supporting the police blindly.
I do not agree with the rioting and looting, but it’s definitely getting the establishment to bend over backwards out of fear.
You wanna know what scares them more? Third world urban shitholes in the united states burning dow their cities, and the communists behind them, and I have no love for our police state
Posted on 6/12/20 at 2:51 am to Strannix
It definitely presents one heck of a conundrum.
Like I say, police will be the lesser of two evils from this and nothing will change. Why? Because the hatred of liberals, blacks and communists outweighs the hatred of police.
It’s the same way Republicans stay in power while being weak-kneed worthless mealy mouths.
Like I say, police will be the lesser of two evils from this and nothing will change. Why? Because the hatred of liberals, blacks and communists outweighs the hatred of police.
It’s the same way Republicans stay in power while being weak-kneed worthless mealy mouths.
Posted on 6/12/20 at 2:58 am to stuntman
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by stuntman
Love listening to his podcast w/ Glen Loury.
Also, ask the average person who Daniel Shaver was. It was an execution. No protests, no riots, no looting...even though the cop got off.
He was white, so it didn't matter, apparently.
“WHITE LIVES DON’T MATTER,” don’t ya know
Posted on 6/12/20 at 3:35 am to texashorn
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Why? Because the hatred of liberals, blacks and communists outweighs the hatred of police.
It’s the same way Republicans stay in power while being weak-kneed worthless mealy mouths.
The majority of white COP vs. black suspect abuse is from Democratic run communities. We all want police reform: Michael Brown was bad training.
But Trayvon Martin and Ahmaud Arbery was bad vigilante "justice" (NOT COPS!), conservative states, sure, but both incidents shone a bad light on the men guilty of the shootings.
But Floyd, Gray (MD), Garner (NY), and throw in a little Rodney King: those are all Democratic run communities. In the case of Floyd and King, I think they were both staged events, not so sure about King, but DEFINITELY Floyd, considering he and the killer knew each other and participated in some covert gun-running operations. Ask yourself, what Republican killed Floyd?
I'll say it again. We all want reforms in cop training and protocols. Rand Paul just introduced a bill to make it illegal for no-knock raids. What party does he belong to? Stop pushing your stupid narrative on Republicans and your twisted view of white hatred. You're a part of the problem, not the solution.
This post was edited on 6/12/20 at 3:36 am
Posted on 6/12/20 at 5:41 am to Big Scrub TX
We had some LEOs juicing steroids.
At one scene, they fought each other.
Are LEOs tested for steroids?
At one scene, they fought each other.
Are LEOs tested for steroids?
Posted on 6/12/20 at 10:31 am to Dustydubs
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I haven’t met a person yet that doesn’t want serious police reform. We all know they have to much power with very little oversight. But getting rid of the police is down right suicidal. Not to mention the never ending “white privilege” so on an so forth.
There's a compelling argument that the US is quite under-policed relative to the rest of the world.
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