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re: "Race is a social construct"

Posted on 4/18/18 at 12:13 am to
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 4/18/18 at 12:13 am to
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Recognizing something as a social construct does not make it any less real hoss


Are you responding to the right person?
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6534 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 12:16 am to
This is me responding to you about why I replied to a response made by you to a reply from me
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24147 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 12:20 am to
Yeah, and your response was nonsensical so I assumed it was for someone else.

Don't worry I hit reply on the wrong post occasionally, happens to the best of us.
This post was edited on 4/18/18 at 12:21 am
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35373 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 2:08 am to
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Wrong again
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In 1970, in the most recent assignment, the U.S. Census Bureau designated Asian Indians as White.
1970 huh? How about 2018?

US Census: Race
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Asian – A person having origins in any of the original peoples of the Far East, Southeast Asia, or the Indian subcontinent including, for example, Cambodia, China, India, Japan, Korea, Malaysia, Pakistan, the Philippine Islands, Thailand, and Vietnam.
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
20634 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 2:56 am to
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All non-Sub Saharan African populations have a percentage of Neanderthal DNA.
So I am 1/4 slave blood. What % of that 1/4 is Neanderthal?
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94811 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 7:11 am to
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Obviously the factors that contribute to one's phenotype relate to common environmental and geographic characteristics so that categories aren't worthless but they are still a constructed categories.


Isn't this literally true of everything that mankind observes, studies and classifies?
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94811 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 7:12 am to
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So I am 1/4 slave blood.


Eh...

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Redbone


Okay. That checks out.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94811 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 7:13 am to
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So I am 1/4 slave blood. What % of that 1/4 is Neanderthal?


Wait, you missed the point - the Sahara was apparently a buffer between the Neanderthal and what we traditionally consider "black folks" (assuming that isn't just all arbitrary) - so it is the 3/4 you have to worry about on the Neanderthal side, my brother.
Posted by NDonahue
Member since Apr 2016
1053 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 7:44 am to
Whiteness is a social construct only until it's time to attack whites as a group. Then it suddenly becomes a real thing. Funny how that works.
Posted by Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
6775 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 7:49 am to
I don't know if "race" is a social construct so much as the designation of race based on skin color is a social construct. Really there are three major people groups in the world today: caucasian, oriental, and negro. There is some individual variation in each, but physical features are a much better indicator of which group you belong to than skin color alone.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
19267 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 8:08 am to
No, Denisovan ancestry has only been found in a few select modern peoples. Aussie aboriginees are one such group. The aboriginees have lived isolated on that continent for about 50,000 years.

East Asians share Neanderthal ancestry with Europeans, suggesting the interbreeding happened before Asians and Europeans split from one another about 40,000 years ago. This fits in with all the physical evidence, as the first anatomically modern humans appear in the fossil record of Europe about 40,000 years ago (c14 dating). Prior to that time Europe was populated by Neanderthals. It has been suggested that the reason we aren't more than a few percent Neanderthal is because most of the crosses didn't result in fertile offspring. One of the geneticists on the team suggested that only the female offspring were fertile.

Denisovans are "cousins" to Neanderthals, but still distinct enough for DNA testing to distinguish. They split from Neanderthals in the distant past and moved East into Siberia and Asia. However it is my understanding that Denisovans did not contribute to East Asians, but only to a few select groups like Abos and Melanisians.

I suspect we will find out that the Hobbit species contributed to some SE Asians. And the full story on Africa hasn't been told either. There is quite a lot of diversity there (the San people for instance look Asian, but are one of the oldest groups in Africa).

Oh, and David Reich at Harvard is one of the main researchers on ancient DNA (he has done a ton of work tracing the genetic history of Europe). He said recently that his findings have made him rethink race (he believes it is real). A pretty astounding statement from a leftist Harvard professor.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
34811 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 8:21 am to
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Time is a construct


The very idea of a construct is a construct. And so is this statement. And that one. And that one. Aaaaaaaaaah
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