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re: Putin says if NATO allows Ukr to launch long range missiles into Rus, then it’s direct war

Posted on 9/12/24 at 8:44 pm to
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 9/12/24 at 8:44 pm to
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he is going to launch cruise missiles on NATO military installations.




He better whip Ukraine first. Putin is no fool and I don't think he wants to do that.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
42884 posts
Posted on 9/12/24 at 8:45 pm to
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Putin says if NATO allows Ukr to launch long range missiles into Rus, then it’s direct war


Another red line that Putin won’t do shite about.
Posted by Earnest_P
Member since Aug 2021
4537 posts
Posted on 9/12/24 at 8:45 pm to
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I don’t think that’s likely either. It’s going to take a lot for him to get pushed to that point.


How he responds is one thing. The other is what right do we have to bomb Russian cities?
This post was edited on 9/12/24 at 8:46 pm
Posted by Goonie02
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 9/12/24 at 8:47 pm to
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I don't think they launch nukes, but let's say an aircraft carrier in the ME gets sunk with Russian assistance. Do our overlords have the balls to end it all for that?

Yes, the Russian general staff have said they will provide anti ship and satellite guidance to the Houthis if America uses their ATACMS in pre-2014 Russia.

Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 9/12/24 at 8:48 pm to
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What other weapons are you referring to that are going to be unleashed? You need to quit digging this hole.


They have medium ranged missiles or mrbm in Ukraine. They can reach any part of Russia and very potent (not nuclear). Though they are capable of delivering nuclear war head. You need to start digging a whole if this happens.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 9/12/24 at 8:50 pm to
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
24668 posts
Posted on 9/12/24 at 8:52 pm to
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Are you being serious? Crimea has been a battlefield since 2014. and the Russians have made it clear no US missiles will be allowed to strike Pre-2014 Russian territory.


Crimea hasn't been a battlefield since 2014. But it has since 2022. What military action was occurring there between the Russian occupation and 2022? NONE.

Don't your boy Putin say it is Russian territory? If it is, he is screwing those Russians in Crimea. If it is Russia, what is the difference in Crimea and another Russian oblast?



Posted by Goonie02
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 9/12/24 at 8:52 pm to
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Putin isn’t on a death march. Even though we keep poking the bear, he’s not going to get involved with a full on war with NATO. That doesn’t seem to be his game here. Unfortunately, we’ll keep making terrible decisions and prodding him further, until after the election.

Putin isn't the only one prosecuting the war in Ukraine. the Russian military is more and more becoming more aggressive and some are even coming out against Putin's decisions of not attacking countries transferring weapons by rail into Ukraine.

even the Russian foreign minister Lavrov stated that Russia must retaliate if long range satellite guided missiles are used in pre 2014 Russia. Russian citizens also approve of attacking countries that use their long range precision weapons inside Russia.

you see the problem with smooth brained people is they always seem to think a war is run by a single person. the Great man theory is one of the dumbest contemporary historical narratives that give neocons causus belli for wars. we have to stop Hitler 3.0.

What if the Russian people are just sick of being treated like 3rd rate barbarians since the 90s? what if they really want to throw down with the west and it isn't just a Putin thing?
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
24668 posts
Posted on 9/12/24 at 8:58 pm to
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Yes, the Russian general staff have said they will provide anti ship and satellite guidance to the Houthis if America uses their ATACMS in pre-2014 Russia.


Now that is something they might do.
Posted by Goonie02
Member since Dec 2019
2797 posts
Posted on 9/12/24 at 8:59 pm to
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Crimea hasn't been a battlefield since 2014. But it has since 2022. What military action was occurring there between the Russian occupation and 2022? NONE.

Don't your boy Putin say it is Russian territory? If it is, he is screwing those Russians in Crimea. If it is Russia, what is the difference in Crimea and another Russian oblast?

you do know Southern Ukraine has been in a conflict since 2014 right? if Crimea was not a battlefield since 2014 why was there a siege and eventual blockade of water to the peninsula?

so you and the neocons agree that Crimea is Russian territory? so its officially legal?
Posted by Buryl
Member since Sep 2016
986 posts
Posted on 9/12/24 at 9:01 pm to
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I’m sure the scumbags in the OT warmonger thread are thrilled, and if this war turns hot between us, I demand that they and their families go to the front lines to fight them. They’re playing and expensing hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian and Russian lives like they’re Monopoly money, so they will have no sympathy from me. World War III is one hell of an October Surprise I’ll give the Dems that one.


This thread is embarrassing. Russia isn’t starting WW3 over missiles being fired into their territory… from a country RUSSIA invaded. Y'all need to stop the blubbering get ahold of yourselves.
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 9/12/24 at 9:01 pm to
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rate barbarians since the 90s? what if they really want to throw down with the west and it isn't just a Putin thing?


The idiots from the OT can not understand this. If you corner a bear the bear will attack.
Posted by lsuguy84
Madisonville
Member since Feb 2009
25046 posts
Posted on 9/12/24 at 9:02 pm to
Are you mistaking my position for me being interested in escalation and pro-Ukrainian or something?

I fully understand what you’re saying. What I’m saying, is Putin going to be the cooler head here and not tip this into a full war with NATO.

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What if the Russian people are just sick of being treated like 3rd rate barbarians since the 90s? what if they really want to throw down with the west and it isn't just a Putin thing?


I’ve held that position for 20 years and have explained it on here. I think it’s stupid we have continued the Boogeyman concept with Russia as long as we have.
This post was edited on 9/12/24 at 9:04 pm
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
24668 posts
Posted on 9/12/24 at 9:03 pm to
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what if they really want to throw down with the west and it isn't just a Putin thing?


They are probably as many in Russia that wants that as they are in the US that wants a war with Russia.

Extremists/Idiots. Not the majority on either side. We will.all.lose.if that happens.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
62875 posts
Posted on 9/12/24 at 9:03 pm to
With U.S. weapons and assistance? Don't cry for WWIII when an American ship gets popped with Russia's help.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
117998 posts
Posted on 9/12/24 at 9:05 pm to
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This thread is embarrassing. Russia isn’t starting WW3 over missiles being fired into their territory… from a country RUSSIA invaded. Y'all need to stop the blubbering get ahold of yourselves.


Says the person with an 83 IQ.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
117998 posts
Posted on 9/12/24 at 9:07 pm to
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Another red line that Putin won’t do shite about.


You people are so fricking stupid.
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
18126 posts
Posted on 9/12/24 at 9:08 pm to
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I expect you to get on your knees and suck my cock


Strange way to come out of the closet. But you be as gay as you want.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
24668 posts
Posted on 9/12/24 at 9:09 pm to
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you do know Southern Ukraine has been in a conflict since 2014 right?


The Donbas is not Crimea. And the Donbas isn't really Southern Ukraine. There has been no armed conflict in Crimea since 2014 and you know it. If you are saying there has been organized fighting in Crimea since 2014 you are lying.
This post was edited on 9/12/24 at 9:10 pm
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
24668 posts
Posted on 9/12/24 at 9:12 pm to
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so you and the neocons agree that Crimea is Russian territory? so its officially legal?


If it is why don't your boy defend it? Crimea must feel.like a Russian stepchild. His navy has been ran off by a country that has no navy and has been blitzed with Storm Shadows.

This post was edited on 9/12/24 at 9:16 pm
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