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re: Putin prepared to go scorched earth

Posted on 9/20/22 at 7:43 pm to
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42251 posts
Posted on 9/20/22 at 7:43 pm to
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It’s hard to quantify but pro-Putin posts are upvoted well on here. That’s really my only indicator.


So some...

ETA

Links?
This post was edited on 9/20/22 at 7:46 pm
Posted by THog
Member since Dec 2021
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Posted on 9/20/22 at 7:45 pm to
He may be in on it too. But if given the choice of certain enslavement or potential enslavement, which would you choose? Didn't blinken say defeat in Ukraine was a defeat of the NWO. America has been the top of the world order for 80 years, so why would our government want a new world order?
This post was edited on 9/20/22 at 7:47 pm
Posted by Eightballjacket
Member since Jan 2016
7899 posts
Posted on 9/20/22 at 7:45 pm to
You want the county you invade to have a functioning infrastructure.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
84551 posts
Posted on 9/20/22 at 7:46 pm to
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Not since the "collective west has decided to go all in as a very much involved combatant in a proxy war. This has become an existential threat to the Russian Federation. A do or die affair for the Russians, as they rightfully see it. The goal of the NATO backed "alliance" is, to put it bluntly, destroy Russia and to impose regime change and then plunder all their immense natural resources. Ukrainians are nothing but cannon fodder.


at any time Russia can withdraw to pre-invasion borders.

And the US gave advanced weaponry on the explicit condition it not be used to fire into Russia proper.
Posted by THog
Member since Dec 2021
2282 posts
Posted on 9/20/22 at 7:48 pm to
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And the US gave advanced weaponry on the explicit condition it not be used to fire into Russia proper.
Extremely naive. What are they supposed to do with the weapons, hump them?
This post was edited on 9/20/22 at 7:49 pm
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42251 posts
Posted on 9/20/22 at 7:48 pm to
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And the US gave advanced weaponry on the explicit condition it not be used to fire into Russia proper.


Your security clearance is most impressive to be able to know what was said in top secret communications.
Posted by LookSquirrel
Old Millville
Member since Oct 2019
7654 posts
Posted on 9/20/22 at 7:49 pm to
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at any time Russia can withdraw to pre-invasion borders.


After all the "War crimes"?

C'mon man.
Posted by JColtF
Lake Charles, LA
Member since Aug 2008
4760 posts
Posted on 9/20/22 at 7:50 pm to
Any update on when his speech is?
Posted by DallasTiger11
Los Angeles
Member since Mar 2004
13389 posts
Posted on 9/20/22 at 7:50 pm to
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Links?

There’s one right above you
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
14914 posts
Posted on 9/20/22 at 7:50 pm to
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Most rational non-bootlickers are concerned about the billions of dollars our government is going into debt for to handover to a country rife with corruption that has nothing to do with us


As am I. But rationally, Russia going scorched earth is far more likely to cause more taxpayer handouts to Ukraine than Russia recognizing that things didn't really go to plan and to leave sovereign nations alone.

They dig in their heels and every Dem and GOPE clown will be emptying our collective wallets even more.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39298 posts
Posted on 9/20/22 at 7:52 pm to
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But if given the choice of certain enslavement or potential enslavement, which would you choose?


The devil you know is better than the devil you don't.

quote:

Didn't blinken say defeat in Ukraine was a defeat 9f the NWO. America has been the top of the world order for 80 years, so why would our government want a new world order?




I don't know the quote you are referring to, but I could hazard a guess. Relatively speaking, the era of republican systems only started less than a century ago (in widespread terms). In contrast, overt authoritarian systems represent the older world order. Those systems are generally terrible at everything except siphoning wealth to an insulated class.
Posted by THog
Member since Dec 2021
2282 posts
Posted on 9/20/22 at 7:54 pm to
Unfortunately the central bank system has to fall. We are looking at hard times as either way we are getting a reset. But will we be free or quantum dot tattooed with a digital currency to control our access to anything via social credit scores?
Posted by DallasTiger11
Los Angeles
Member since Mar 2004
13389 posts
Posted on 9/20/22 at 7:54 pm to
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Russia recognizing that things didn't really go to plan and to leave sovereign nations alone.

Is this even a remotely realistic outcome or a pipe dream?
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42251 posts
Posted on 9/20/22 at 7:54 pm to
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The devil you know is better than the devil you don't.


If you don’t know plenty concerning both “devils” at this point, then you are being willfully ignorant.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42251 posts
Posted on 9/20/22 at 7:55 pm to
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Is this even a remotely realistic outcome


No
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
19264 posts
Posted on 9/20/22 at 7:56 pm to
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He’s about to do what he should of done. Attack all of Ukraine’s critical infrastructure, and plunge the entire nation into darkness.


He didn't do it because it's pointless. His goal was to put Ukraine under the control of Russia, not destroy it. What's the point of "taking control" of a country of rubble? All it will do is cost Russia a shitload of money to rebuild.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42251 posts
Posted on 9/20/22 at 7:56 pm to
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They dig in their heels and every Dem and GOPE clown will be emptying our collective wallets even more.


This was going to happen anyway imho.

Wars are just a means of moving tax payer dollars to private pockets with minimal oversight.
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
14914 posts
Posted on 9/20/22 at 7:57 pm to
Disagree. Russia has done it before, they just sell it as a victory.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39298 posts
Posted on 9/20/22 at 7:57 pm to
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If you don’t know plenty concerning both “devils” at this point, then you are being willfully ignorant


I do. I'd still rather live in the US under our current system than mimic the Russian system in any way, or any authoritarian system.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42251 posts
Posted on 9/20/22 at 7:57 pm to
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His goal was to put Ukraine under the control of Russia


I don’t buy this.

Eastern regions - yes.

ALL of Ukraine - no.
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