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re: Punishing tariffs to be rolled back according to reports today

Posted on 11/7/19 at 7:08 am to
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135504 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 7:08 am to
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The government is set to roll back at least some of the tariffs it has imposed on American importers and manufacturers.
My understanding is the "rollback" only applies to existing plans for December tariff increases, not for current rates.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 7:17 am to
I would be all for the government helping US companies move production back to the US by removing cost in the US for things like regulations, product liability and tariffs.

I would love to see Trump talk about loser pay and free trade and plant specific pollution regs instead of general declarations that are too broad.

We would not import anything from China if we could have relief on one environmental law (the only US manufacturer of the product we import has grandfathered relief from this regulation in a perfect example of crony capitalism). It is a an input in our manufacturing process that if manufactured here as it is in China would not have environmental impact. We have some screwy regs in the US.
This post was edited on 11/7/19 at 7:21 am
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
32322 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 7:20 am to
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it has gone just about exactly as I have been saying


is this real life
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 7:21 am to
Point to something specifically you think I was wrong on.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 7:21 am to
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B Freeman


It's almost like we told you this would happen but you were too obtuse to realize it
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
15971 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 7:21 am to
If this happens,it’s a smart move.

Trump needs to remove the chokes until he gets re elected and then put the screws to china bigtime.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 7:23 am to
What are you talking about Shorty?

You told me this wasn't about IP protection and forced partnerships in China as I pointed out for months.

You told me this was about punishing China and that the Chinese were paying the tariffs. That it was about making the Chinese economy collapse or something.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
57880 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 7:27 am to
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Productive tariffs to be rolled back according to reports today


Fixed.

All the Trump tariffs have been tied to milestones. "Once you agree to x, we will cut/reduce y". Trump has already signaled that things are progressing well enough so the December tariffs shouldn't be needed.

In a perfect world China will sign phase 1 and tariffs decrease. However, if they balk or if they regress then it would be the height of idiocy to penalize them.

The ball is, and always has been, in their court.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 7:30 am to
Productive.

Foolish talk.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
57880 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 7:33 am to
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Productive.

Foolish talk.


The Chinese economy is being hurt so badly by the tariffs they are now far more eager to accept a deal they would have scoffed at just 4 years ago.

That's productive.

Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
68467 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 7:36 am to
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the tariffs it has imposed on American importers and manufacturers.

Oh boy
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 7:43 am to
Oh Boy what???

Not even Trump says any more the Chinese are paying these tariffs. That was foolish to say and just a lie.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 7:46 am to
Productive for those that want to invest in China without forced partnerships or those that want to invest in Chinese companies or those that want to build plants in China or those that want to establish brand in China.

I doubt you will find any American company using Chinese inputs in their manufacturing processes that will call it "productive".
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
84146 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 7:49 am to
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t has gone just about exactly as I have been saying-
Millions of acres lost, steel skyrocketing. Sure thing.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
84146 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 7:52 am to
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I do not know what you consider trinkets but I am not in the trinket business.
You are however into lead laced Chinese imports.
Posted by LSUBadger
Member since Jan 2014
2238 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 8:15 am to
My company has been getting hit full on by the 25% tariffs. That said, my costs have dropped 18% since this all started as manufacturers cut pricing to sustain sales. A big part of their ability to do that has been the devaluation of the RMB by 8-10%

That devaluation hits the working class in China very hard. Throw in the inflation in food and the average Chinese citizen is taking a major hit. They are paying a big chunk of the cost of these tariffs. Make no mistake about that
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
13808 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 8:16 am to
Unfortunately, due to nutter envirowhacko's influence, the U.S. has laws and regs which make it possible to make certain things in China or elsewhere and import them into the U.S. However the same things cannot be made here without 3 years of fish testing for toxicity on the finished product.

This makes zero sense at all since it those commodities will be here anyway whether imported or made here.
Posted by stat19
Member since Feb 2011
29350 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 8:17 am to
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Punishing tariffs to be rolled back according to reports today


fricking-A... It's like IBChinaman Day.

Posted by stat19
Member since Feb 2011
29350 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 8:20 am to
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tariffs on truck nuts and Yetis


We don't buy Yetis no more, Chinaman. The owner cucked out and bowed to commie pressure to take our guns.

We buy Rtic now!
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 11/7/19 at 8:25 am to
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Punishing tariffs


Not just tariffs, but PUNISHING tariffs.
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