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re: Pulse survivor says he is no longer gay, has found Christ
Posted on 5/3/18 at 12:24 pm to Codythetiger
Posted on 5/3/18 at 12:24 pm to Codythetiger
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Being gay is a choice. Why the frick would you be hotwired to not carry on your fricking species.
You moron, homosexual behavior exists in thousands of non-human species. Why post on topics you clearly know nothing about?
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Posted on 5/3/18 at 12:24 pm to Joshjrn
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Right, because homosexuality has only existed in modern times and only in humans
Wait. Have we documented animals that are actually "homosexual" (which in this discussion would mean, exclusively wanting to have animal sex with their same sex species brethren)?
Posted on 5/3/18 at 12:25 pm to OMLandshark
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What if more aunts and uncles around who didn't breed led to more successful rearing of the kids compared to tribes that didn't have this going on? There could be some evolutionary advantage to the people as a whole if not to the individual.
Doesn't matter as the genes carried by these aunts and uncles who didn't breed would be lost in one generation. What you state doesn't represent any sort of lasting advantage. The fact that you make the argument indicates that you don't understand the science involved.
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Wait. Have we documented animals that are actually "homosexual"
No we haven't. See above.
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You moron, homosexual behavior exists in thousands of non-human species. Why post on topics you clearly know nothing about?
Dogs hump legs too, does that make leg humping a "sexual orientation"?
This post was edited on 5/3/18 at 12:29 pm
Posted on 5/3/18 at 12:26 pm to NC_Tigah
Trauma can have a serious effect on a person.
Posted on 5/3/18 at 12:27 pm to FooManChoo
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Great theologians have written on these subjects for 2,000 years.
They've also been rewriting these subjects for 2000 years.
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Being gay is a choice. Why the frick would you be hotwired to not carry on your fricking species.
Keep those blinders on, big guy. About 1500 animal species (that have been observed so far) regularly practice homosexuality. It doesn't make sense to me either as to why that would be, but it happens.
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Like I said before, the idea that it's a choice is silly. I don't have the capability of being gay because I find men physically repulsive. It functionally wouldn't work. Somebody saying that it is a choice implies that they find men physically attractive enough that they think they could go bang one of they so chose.
Posted on 5/3/18 at 12:27 pm to FooManChoo
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FooManChoo
Not simply based on this thread, but you're the type of Christian that makes me almost wish I wasn't one myself.
Posted on 5/3/18 at 12:28 pm to rbWarEagle
quote:You can take that up with the almighty if you object to Him judging us for our sinful thoughts. He gave us a way to channel our natural urges into something good.
In other words, to avoid thought-crime, marry someone you aren't attracted to/don't love to ease those pesky sin-thoughts.
Posted on 5/3/18 at 12:28 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Wait. Have we documented animals that are actually "homosexual" (which in this discussion would mean, exclusively wanting to have animal sex with their same sex species brethren)?
Why does that matter if thousands of species, insect to ape, regularly engage in bisexual behavior?
Posted on 5/3/18 at 12:30 pm to rbWarEagle
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Why does that matter if thousands of species, insect to ape, regularly engage in bisexual behavior?
I have no idea. I don't think it does to me. I was just questioning the guy who interjected the point into this discussion.
Posted on 5/3/18 at 12:30 pm to FooManChoo
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You can take that up with the almighty if you object to Him judging us for our sinful thoughts
If god existed, I doubt he'd judge us for the musings of our gene/environment driven neural circuitry (which he would undoubtably have more control over than we do, by the way).
This post was edited on 5/3/18 at 12:31 pm
Posted on 5/3/18 at 12:32 pm to Ag Zwin
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How did his genes get modified for this to even be possible?
Perhaps I have missed something. Please link to any scientific evidence that proves homosexuality is genetic.
Posted on 5/3/18 at 12:33 pm to ngadawg250
There is some evidence that it may be epigenetic.
Posted on 5/3/18 at 12:34 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Wait. Have we documented animals that are actually "homosexual" (which in this discussion would mean, exclusively wanting to have animal sex with their same sex species brethren)?
From my link above:
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Gay bird couples are very common
The Dutch duo is not an isolated example. At New York's Central Park Zoo, two male chinstrap penguins, which were a couple for about six years, also nurtured a fertilized egg together and raised the young chick that hatched. Birds, such as vultures, geese and ducks, are known for pairing with one partner for life, so those who choose a same-sex partner will stick with it. And that happens more often than you might think. When you see a colony of black-headed gulls for instance, you can be sure that almost every tenth pair is a lesbian couple. The Laysan albatross, which nests in Hawaii, is also known for its large number of homosexual partnerships. Around 30 percent of the pairings on the island of Oahu, for instance, are made up of two females. And around 20 percent of swan couples are homosexual as well.
Posted on 5/3/18 at 12:35 pm to HogX
Okay, thanks. 
Posted on 5/3/18 at 12:35 pm to rbWarEagle
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There is some evidence that it may be epigenetic.
Cite the studies and I'll take them apart right here. You've lost this argument.
As far as the link to the DW news article, which is not a scientific study, it's little more than a propaganda piece.
The observation of homosexual behavior in animals is in no way indicative of a genetic homosexual orientation in humans.
This post was edited on 5/3/18 at 12:41 pm
Posted on 5/3/18 at 12:36 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Okay, thanks.
It would be birds, of course.
Posted on 5/3/18 at 12:38 pm to Boatshoes
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t is clear to even the most casual observer that natural selection and a genetic basis for homosexuality cannot coexist due to the competitive disadvantage such a gene would confer on its carriers.
Interesting that this is not pointed out more often.
Posted on 5/3/18 at 12:39 pm to Joshjrn
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This post was edited on 6/8/20 at 10:58 am
Posted on 5/3/18 at 12:40 pm to ctiger69
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Right, because rape, murder, and child molestation has only existed in modern times.
Nah, that was after the Catholic Church was founded.
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