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re: public ban on the use of tobacco

Posted on 7/9/14 at 12:09 pm to
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 7/9/14 at 12:09 pm to
Just an FYI... when the Superdome first opened in New Orleans back in the 70s they allowed smoking even though it was indoors. By the second half you cook look up at the roof and see huge clouds of cigarette smoke.

During that same era I also went to baseball games at the Astrodome and did not notice any smog in the air. Don't know if they banned cigarettes from the beginning or maybe they had a better ventilation system.
Posted by ZZTIGERS
Member since Dec 2007
17188 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 12:09 pm to
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The deleterious effects of second-hand smoke are very, very well documented.

2nd Hand Smoke NOT Linked to Lung Cancer

quote:

The study found no statistically significant relationship between lung cancer and exposure to passive smoke, however. Only among women who had lived with a smoker for 30 years or more was there a relationship that the researchers described as “borderline statistical significance.” Over at the Velvet Glove, Iron Fist blog, however, journalist Christopher Snowden notes “there’s no such thing as borderline statistical significance. It’s either significant or it’s not,” and the reported hazard ratio was not
This post was edited on 7/9/14 at 12:14 pm
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54260 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 12:12 pm to
I like it when they shoot off fireworks in a dome stadium and smoke is everywhere but yet nobody bitches.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112799 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 12:24 pm to
Is smoking allowed in Tiger Stadium?
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54260 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 12:26 pm to
My buddy tells me you have to go under the stands or out by the fence. Someone will have first hand knowledge on here I'd imagine.
Posted by GoBigOrange86
Meine sich're Zuflucht
Member since Jun 2008
14486 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 12:29 pm to
Statists gon' state.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23233 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 12:32 pm to
Starting in the fall semester, smoking will be banned on the entire LSU campus.
Posted by ironsides
Nashville, TN
Member since May 2006
8153 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 12:43 pm to
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The deleterious effects of second-hand smoke are very, very well documented. You don't have the right to make me share your habit with you.


I know that the effects are well documented. But just curious: how many coroners reports list "second hand smoke" as cause of death?
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23233 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 12:44 pm to
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I know that the effects are well documented. But just curious: how many coroners reports list "second hand smoke" as cause of death?


There's also a big difference between smelling someone smoking outside and actually breathing in second hand smoke.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112799 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 12:47 pm to
I've seen reports go both ways on 2nd hand smoke. But if you've ever walked through a major air port and looked inside those glass smoking rooms you know it's not a healthy place to be.
Posted by tigersownall
Thibodaux
Member since Sep 2011
15401 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 12:47 pm to
This is why I live in south Louisiana. frick all this hippie shite. Its bad enough they are banning it on college campuses.
Posted by ZZTIGERS
Member since Dec 2007
17188 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 12:49 pm to
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I know that the effects are well documented. But just curious: how many coroners reports list "second hand smoke" as cause of death?

What effects are you referring to? I know it's not lung cancer.


ETA: Just looked at Cancer.gov page on 2nd hand smoke. All their reports date from 1999-2010. The study I linked was published in 2013.
This post was edited on 7/9/14 at 12:56 pm
Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
10074 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 1:05 pm to
We are gonna look back and hate ourselves when all these poors stop smoking and live longer.

We don't need bans, we need to let nature take it's course. Smoking has been deemed lower class behavior by way of American Propagandist efforts.

This fact has forced middle and Upper Class Americans to discard the vice. We should leave it as is and idealize the smoking behavior in circles of poverty while pushing massively subsidized birth control for poors, funding it all with an increased tobacco tax.

Stop breeding poverty, people.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 1:06 pm to
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You don't have the right to make me share your habit with you.



When you enter a private establishment that allows smoking, no one is forcing you to do anything...just leave. You don't have the right to force a business owner to provide you with services under YOUR terms.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 1:09 pm to
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Are health codes against the constitution as well


oh so then why do we allow them to sell alcohol? You don't like smoke, a business allows smoking, then don't fricking go in.

completely contrary to the point of health codes as well. Those exist to protect the consumer from hazards they're unaware of.

Posted by Doosh606
The DC
Member since Apr 2008
3232 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 1:09 pm to
I'm cool with banning it indoors... But outside is just stupid. Do you know how many carcinogens and carbon monoxide you inhale just by being outside in a city? Like sone have said, it's also impossible to enforce. Good luck telling people they can't smoke on game days...
Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
10074 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 1:12 pm to
Iowa enacted a public smoking ban a few years back. It was sold to the public as The Iowa clean air act

It is a crime in Iowa to smoke on any public property, including the parking lot at Kinnick Stadium in Iowa City. They write tickets for this.

The only businesses exempt are casinos.

This all from a state that is a massive agricultural node with zero emission testing requirements.
This post was edited on 7/9/14 at 1:16 pm
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
91246 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 1:14 pm to
I'm glad I live where I live. Just about all bars, casinos, and even a few restaurants still allow smoking inside. There are no bans it's up to the businesses, as it should be. But then again there is a high percentage of people in the delta who smoke, probably more smoke than don't smoke
Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
10074 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 1:15 pm to
I like to smoke but I hate smoking indoors.

The world is better without it.
This post was edited on 7/9/14 at 1:19 pm
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 1:15 pm to
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2nd Hand Smoke NOT Linked to Lung Cancer


I'll see your one study and raise you...

American Cancer Society

American Lung Association

The Mayo Clinic

CDC

NHS

I could do this all day.
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