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re: PSA to ALL White, Liberal women
Posted on 11/30/25 at 4:25 pm to 4cubbies
Posted on 11/30/25 at 4:25 pm to 4cubbies
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Wait. Hold up. You are calling my claims illogical and now you’re telling me to launch an investigation to determine why you say my claims are illogical?
Because your claims are axioms of your beliefs, you should think about what that means.
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they are in the care, custody and control of the government. They aren’t just living their lives.
I guess you feel the same about victims of crime? Life is dangerous?
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You are the one who is so worried what happens to a prisoner stuck in a cell with another prisoner (again you won't be precise what these things are that are happening)
That you want to release both of them so that the victim is now stuck with the more violent one.
I promise you that you are harming every parolee who you tell that it is not their fault.
Your coddling of them put them and others further in harms way.
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Posted on 11/30/25 at 4:33 pm to Narax
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Because your claims are axioms of your beliefs, you should think about what that means.
Repeating your opinion as if it is fact doesn’t make it fact. Your claims are based purely on vibes. You can’t even find evidence to support them.
quote:this is emotional language that serves no purpose.
You are the one who is so worried what happens to a prisoner stuck in a cell with another prisoner (again you won't be precise what these things are that are happening)
I’m pointing out failures of the government.
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That you want to release both of them so that the victim is now stuck with the more violent one.
I want rehabilitation to be attempted with fidelity.
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I promise you that you are harming every parolee who you tell that it is not their fault.
What are you referring to?
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Your coddling of them put them and others further in harms way.
How am I coddling anyone?
Posted on 11/30/25 at 4:55 pm to 4cubbies
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Repeating your opinion as if it is fact doesn’t make it fact. Your claims are based purely on vibes. You can’t even find evidence to support them.
Understood, you won't
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this is emotional language that serves no purpose.
That was one of your examples...
Was it emotional?
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We can put people who the government said did something wrong in cages with other people that the government said did something wrong. Nothing about that screams "safely" to me.
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I want rehabilitation to be attempted with fidelity.
I've pointed this out a number of times, there are many people within and outside of the government who are honestly trying to help.
But your extremeisms are extremely unhelpful.
The cycle has been that you say something extreme, I try to start establishing a baseline, then you declare oh well that's not enough and you retreat back to a tear everything down position.
You aren't helping yourself here, you are just driving yourself to frustration.
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What are you referring to?
Their imprisonment, you've made so many claims that there is no justification for imprisonment.
If you tell that to a parolee, you are undoing any responsibility they have.
Posted on 11/30/25 at 5:09 pm to Narax
Kudos to you for trying.
Posted on 11/30/25 at 5:22 pm to Athis
Travis Lewis was released, she offered him a job at the same house where he k*lled her mother. He ended up k*lling her in the same house.
yes dumb bitch
yes dumb bitch
Posted on 11/30/25 at 5:32 pm to 4cubbies
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this is emotional language that serves no purpose.
I’m pointing out failures of the government.
Yet you defend a much bigger failure based on your nonsensical ideas, so you are failing badly.
Posted on 11/30/25 at 7:06 pm to Narax
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But your extremeisms are extremely unhelpful.
Recidivism rates are what they are. They are extreme because the government is failing to rehabilitate most people in its custody. That’s the point.
quote:Then link one.
Their imprisonment, you've made so many claims that there is no justification for imprisonment.
I’ve stated that there is no justification for capital punishment. I stand by that.
quote:. Likewise.
If you tell that to a parolee, you are undoing any responsibility they have.
Posted on 11/30/25 at 7:15 pm to 4cubbies
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Then link one.
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Are you arguing that the state has no obligation to ensure the safety of people it is essentially holding hostage?
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I'm stating with absolute certainty that prison is dehumanizing.
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I never claimed living in a cage is the worst thing that can happen to someone. If the bar for what we allow the government to get away with is "well, it's not the worst thing that could happen to someone..." then we have extremely different views about the government and its role in society.
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Safely put them away? People are not safe in prisons and jails. It is very traumatizing for most people.
We can put people who the government said did something wrong in cages with other people that the government said did something wrong. Nothing about that screams "safely" to me.
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Incarceration leads to worse and worse crimes upon release.
I'm quite curious how you can say all that and think there is justification for imprisonment.
Posted on 11/30/25 at 8:10 pm to Narax
Nothing in any of those posts indicates that no one should be incarcerated for any reason ever. They all indicate that the government manages a broken, unsafe and ineffective penal system.
Posted on 11/30/25 at 8:30 pm to 4cubbies
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Nothing in any of those posts indicates that no one should be incarcerated for any reason ever.
OK so what kind of crimes should result in justifiable incarceration. How long should they be incarcerated for.
And how many times committing the same crimes rises to the level of justifiable incarceration.
Posted on 11/30/25 at 8:36 pm to Narax
The government has a societal responsibility to at least attempt to rehabilitate individuals in its custody after they are convicted of criminal behavior.
I’m not equipped to sentence every individual convicted of a crime.
I’m not equipped to sentence every individual convicted of a crime.
Posted on 11/30/25 at 8:41 pm to 4cubbies
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Nothing in any of those posts indicates that no one should be incarcerated for any reason ever. They all indicate that the government manages a broken, unsafe and ineffective penal system.
It is what it is. The priority is something far more important.
Posted on 11/30/25 at 8:47 pm to 4cubbies
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The government has a societal responsibility to at least attempt to rehabilitate individuals in its custody after they are convicted of criminal behavior.
I’m not equipped to sentence every individual convicted of a crime.
I really gave you a chance there.
You couldn't even give one example of a situation where the government would be justified in incarnation.
Posted on 11/30/25 at 8:48 pm to ZIGG
When South Park made the episodes about how women will not need men in the future, well… this kinda shite doesn’t help.
Posted on 11/30/25 at 8:48 pm to Narax
God bless you for trying.
Posted on 11/30/25 at 9:33 pm to Narax
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I really gave you a chance there
You didn’t. You’ve been incredibly and uncharacteristically disingenuous throughout this entire thread. You’ve consistently mischaracterized my claims in attempts to belittle them.
I’ve been consistent. I’m not going to play your little sentencing game just because you can’t argue against what I’m actually saying.
Idk if you’re going through something or what but this isn’t your typical MO. The last few months have been tough for me. Maybe there’s a cosmic shift happening or something.
Posted on 11/30/25 at 11:04 pm to 4cubbies
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You didn’t. You’ve been incredibly and uncharacteristically disingenuous throughout this entire thread. You’ve consistently mischaracterized my claims in attempts to belittle them.
You are extremely mistaken if you think thats what happened.
You are free to throw a fit and pretend you were wronged.
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I’ve been consistent. I’m not going to play your little sentencing game just because you can’t argue against what I’m actually saying.
To have an argument, or indeed a discussion, the two parties must agree on common criteria.
If both sides start with axioms that they dont agree on there can be no discussion.
Your argument requires others to treat your beliefs as true.
They are not.
Would you rather people just say oh wow great point, being nice but letting you go on in delusion, or would you rather people actually point out where your beliefs are indeed rather ridiculous for living in a society with others.
Only one of those approaches will help you at all.
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Idk if you’re going through something or what but this isn’t your typical MO. The last few months have been tough for me. Maybe there’s a cosmic shift happening or something
I promise you I have never been the person who would let people get by with such a weak logic.
Its unhealthy, it will turn you against others.
This is why I keep going back to axioms. When you make your beleifs your reality, you can no longer approach that topic unbiased.
I believe in Christ, thats an axiom for me, I will never approach a religious topic unbiased, I am not a lawyer or a judge, I am a zcynical. The same goes true for my love of country (but not political leadership)
For most other things I am a cynic. If I become zealous about too many things I will see enemies everywhere.
You should think on this, I think you really need to.
I dont say this in anger or mocking.
The world is not your enemy.
Posted on 12/1/25 at 3:58 am to RogerTheShrubber
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I;ll never understand why people willingly take public transportation on a regular basis.
Maybe venture outside of whatever area in Louisiana you live in?
Posted on 12/1/25 at 4:21 am to Narax
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He holds in His hand every child murdered in the womb, in the street, or in their home.
The bible is hundreds of pages long. Where does it say this?
Posted on 12/1/25 at 5:10 am to 4cubbies
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What’s the point?
You are that stupid for real?
Stupid female leftist. Just like the rest of them.
This post was edited on 12/1/25 at 6:26 am
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