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re: Prosecutors are going to struggle to find anything the 'necks did that breaks a Ga law.

Posted on 5/11/20 at 2:46 pm to
Posted by ShortyRob
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 2:46 pm to
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I keep seeing people post that the older guy stepped in Arbery's path, got in his way, and even charged AT Arbery...where is this coming from? I'm not seeing it.
It's coming from pure fricking fantasy.

I mean. Call the dude's guilty if they want.

But Arbury CLEARLY took a path SEEKING OUT junior.

If someone tries to deny that, I can't even take them seriously at this point.

They can argue he felt he had to. They can argue he felt threatened. They can argue a lot of things.

But, if they're going to just pretend shite that didn't occur, they should be dismissed.
Posted by KiwiHead
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 2:49 pm to
Read the statute. They don't come close.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 2:51 pm to
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The older guy with the shotgun was standing in the road well before Arbery made it to the truck.


Jr has the shotgun and was driving. Note where Jr is there. And where is Jr. when Arbery collided with him?
Posted by ShortyRob
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 2:53 pm to
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Jr has the shotgun and was driving. Note where Jr is there. And where is Jr. when Arbery collided with him?
I have

Which is why the silliness of "junior cut him off" is...……..well...……..silly.

Arbury engaged and he pretty fricking clearly INTENDED to engage.

So, you can argue he felt he had to. But that it was HIS initiation isn't remotely in question. Trying to pretend otherwise just looks silly.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 2:54 pm to
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Brandishing a firearm in public is a misdemeanor


seems an affront to the 2nd Amendment to me.
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 2:55 pm to
Junior was moving towards him as well. Anyone who doesn’t admit that is a fricking idiot and you should ignore them.
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 3:03 pm to
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Note where Jr is there. And where is Jr. when Arbery collided with him?


I see it now. I don't think there is enough evidence to say that he charged at Arbery or that he was in the process of moving toward him when Arbery made the left turn toward him. You can't see him move in the video, but it's clear Jr moved closer to the front of the truck after he realized Arbery was going around the other side. I also don't see how you can argue that he was trying to block him or get in his way. It's not like Arbery's only path was to make a hard left turn across the front of the truck. Also, how could Jr even predict that he would turn toward him like that?
This post was edited on 5/11/20 at 3:08 pm
Posted by G The Tiger Fan
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 3:04 pm to
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I keep seeing people post that the older guy stepped in Arbery's path, got in his way, and even charged AT Arbery...where is this coming from? I'm not seeing it.
It's coming from pure fricking fantasy.
Someone on here tried to tell me yesterday that pulling up beside Arbery was "blockading" him.
This post was edited on 5/11/20 at 3:05 pm
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 3:07 pm to
Yes. He’s moved from even with the door about 3 feet to the left of the open door to even with the front of the driver’s side when Arbery rounds the front of the truck.

The first shot is almost the same moment that Arbery rounds the front of the truck.
Posted by ljhog
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Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 3:08 pm to
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You can’t have a rational non emotional discussion about this subject.

Maybe you can't. I sure can. I'm not emotionally invested in outcome of this event in any way.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 3:08 pm to
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Someone on here tried to tell me yesterday that pulling up beside Arbery


They didn’t pull up beside him. They lied to police. Sounds like something a criminal would do.
Posted by TiketheMiger
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 3:09 pm to
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I don't think there is enough evidence to say that he charged at Arbery


If you watch the video the very beginning shows JR exiting the truck at the driver side. Then as Arbery starts veering to the left JR is next seen several feet to the left of the drivers side door. Once Arbery moves to the right and around the truck JR is now in front the truck.

Jr covered a decent amount of ground in a few seconds.

It is clear JR was moving to intercept him no matter which route he was taking. I never noticed him moving more to the left of the truck until I had just re watched the video.
This post was edited on 5/11/20 at 3:10 pm
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 3:11 pm to
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The first shot is almost the same moment that Arbery rounds the front of the truck.


The first shot happens at about the same time Arbery makes physical contact with Jr. We don't really know if that shot hit him do we?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 3:13 pm to
I believe the first shot hits Arbery in the hand.

The McMichaels also said there were only two shots.
Posted by OleWar
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 3:14 pm to
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The accused openly confessed to a class C felony in Georgia based on the police report. So, at a minimum, they are already guilty of a crime.


Have news search engines become shite, I can not find a link to this.

ETA: Oh because it never happened.
This post was edited on 5/11/20 at 8:43 pm
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 3:14 pm to
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It is clear JR was moving to intercept him no matter which route he was taking.


How is it clear? If Arbery hadn't have turned, he would have ran through that person's yard on the right. Sure, it's possible that's what Jr was trying to do, but I don't know if I'd say it's clear.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 3:15 pm to
LINK

Initial incident report.
Posted by G The Tiger Fan
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 3:27 pm to
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They didn’t pull up beside him.
Well, I'm not seeing in the video where they blockaded him. And it's not in the police report that they blockaded him. I was told by the legal minds on here that if they were "blockading" him while holding guns, even if the guns weren't drawn at Arbery, that was considered "brandishing" a weapon.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 3:30 pm to
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And it's not in the police report that they blockaded him.


Because McMichaels lied to them and said he pulled up beside Arbery.
Posted by G The Tiger Fan
Member since Apr 2015
110644 posts
Posted on 5/11/20 at 3:32 pm to
Well, whether it's in the police report or not, the "blockading" is not in the video either.
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