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Proposed bill would allow teachers to carry concealed weapons on school campuses
Posted on 3/13/24 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 3/13/24 at 12:37 pm
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A bill filed for the regular Louisiana legislative session aims to permit teachers and other school personnel holding valid concealed carry permits to possess concealed weapons on school campuses.
State Representative Lauren Ventrella (R-Central) filed HB721, which “Provides for the carrying of a concealed weapon in a school or on a school campus by a certified teacher or school administrator who is employed by a school district and possesses a valid concealed handgun permit.”
Currently, existing law prohibits anyone from carrying a weapon on a school campus during regular school hours or on a school bus.
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 12:59 pm to WPBTiger
Best news I have heard all day.
Posted on 3/13/24 at 1:02 pm to WPBTiger
They should have to go thru some training before being allowed to.
Posted on 3/13/24 at 1:02 pm to WPBTiger
Excellent!!
Posted on 3/13/24 at 1:03 pm to WPBTiger
Good
Posted on 3/13/24 at 1:08 pm to lake chuck fan
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They should have to go thru some training before being allowed to.
They should have their constitutional rights to protect and defend their life and liberty respected and observed. The fact that they aren't is the reason that schools are killing zones for the mentally deranged.
They should be paid extra money if they choose to take handgun defense training and submit to psychological evaluations, for taking on the responsibility of protecting children with violence if necessary.
Posted on 3/13/24 at 1:14 pm to troyt37
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They should be paid extra money if they choose to take handgun defense training and submit to psychological evaluations,
No problem with that. But the bolded portions are necessary if we're going to do this in schools, IMO.
Posted on 3/13/24 at 1:19 pm to Indefatigable
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No problem with that. But the bolded portions are necessary if we're going to do this in schools, IMO.
Only if they intend to actively protect the kids. If they want to carry to protect themselves, they should have every right that any other citizen has. They aren't in the military. If their constitutional rights are dependent on their job, they aren't constitutional rights, they are privileges, granted by the government.
Posted on 3/13/24 at 1:22 pm to troyt37
College instructors and professors definitely should have the option to carry. They only deal with adults, and their environment is also dangerous at times.
Posted on 3/13/24 at 1:22 pm to troyt37
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If their constitutional rights are dependent on their job, they aren't constitutional rights, they are privileges, granted by the government.
Carrying in schools is not a constitutional right at present. It would be a privilege afforded by the legislature and it would hopefully involve the aforementioned requirements, at the very least.
Posted on 3/13/24 at 1:25 pm to Indefatigable
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Carrying in schools is not a constitutional right at present.
bullshite. Do I need to quote you the 2A? At present, it is mostly not allowed by government fiat, which has plastered a large target for the demented on our schools and our children.
Posted on 3/13/24 at 1:29 pm to troyt37
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bullshite. Do I need to quote you the 2A?
Quote it all you want. I'm guessing you are one of the people who believe that the Second Amendment is the only legal principle in the entire body of law of the United States that cannot be reasonably restricted?
State gun-free school zone laws are constitutional.
Louisiana has one.
Posted on 3/13/24 at 1:35 pm to Indefatigable
I’m in favor of coded gun lock boxes accessible to 10-20 teachers and admins located in several locations secretly across a primary or secondary campus. Teachers must pass a safety course and demonstrate proficiency and are then given their own personal code. In the event of a shooting, these teachers can then access the guns from a location where the shooters are not and confront.
Posted on 3/13/24 at 1:39 pm to lake chuck fan
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They should have to go thru some training before being allowed to.
Why?
And exactly what kind of training?
Posted on 3/13/24 at 1:40 pm to Indefatigable
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I'm guessing you are one of the people who believe that the Second Amendment is the only legal principle in the entire body of law of the United States that cannot be reasonably restricted?
I'm likewise guessing you are one of those people who think that any restriction anyone wants to impose is constitutional, including, "No one needs one of those."
AmIright?
This post was edited on 3/13/24 at 1:41 pm
Posted on 3/13/24 at 1:42 pm to bluestem75
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In the event of a shooting, these teachers can then access the guns from a location where the shooters are not and confront.
Why is that better than the guns being on the teacher's person?
Posted on 3/13/24 at 1:45 pm to Indefatigable
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Quote it all you want. I'm guessing you are one of the people who believe that the Second Amendment is the only legal principle in the entire body of law of the United States that cannot be reasonably restricted?
Can congress make a law establishing a religion for the US, or prohibiting the free exercise of religion? Or can they just decide on a case by case basis, not unlike that of deciding that your job means you cannot exercise your rights as an American?
Can the government search your property without a warrant if the supreme court says so?
The Supreme Court is not the law. The Constitution is the law. It can either be observed and upheld, or it is violated. When the Supreme Court observes and upholds the Constitution, they are doing their job. When they carve out situations and instances when citizens are stripped of their constitutional rights, they are tyrants.
Posted on 3/13/24 at 1:56 pm to bluestem75
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I’m in favor of coded gun lock boxes accessible to 10-20 teachers and admins located in several locations secretly across a primary or secondary campus. Teachers must pass a safety course and demonstrate proficiency and are then given their own personal code. In the event of a shooting, these teachers can then access the guns from a location where the shooters are not and confront.
I don't see how that is feasible at all, unless the secret locations are somewhere in the classroom with the teacher, and even then you are putting a teacher in a position of trying to remember a code to access a weapon to protect to kids while it is likely that one of the most traumatic events of their life is happening.
Posted on 3/13/24 at 2:05 pm to troyt37
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The Supreme Court is not the law. The Constitution is the law. It can either be observed and upheld, or it is violated. When the Supreme Court observes and upholds the Constitution, they are doing their job. When they carve out situations and instances when citizens are stripped of their constitutional rights, they are tyrants.
Then I guess live in la-la land. SCOTUS is the arbiter of what is constitutional and what isn't.
And I notice you conveniently left off freedom of speech, the press, and to peaceably assemble out of your first amendment piece. Congress has surely passed laws abridging those rights.
"Shall make no law" is just as textually restrictive as "shall not be infringed"
This post was edited on 3/13/24 at 2:06 pm
Posted on 3/13/24 at 2:05 pm to wackatimesthree
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AmIright?
No. you are not.
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