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re: Prof: 'Nothing wrong with' murder of Trump supporter from a 'moral perspective'
Posted on 9/11/20 at 7:34 am to FooManChoo
Posted on 9/11/20 at 7:34 am to FooManChoo
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I'm curious where they have obtained their moral standard
From their father, Satan.
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Posted on 9/11/20 at 7:37 am to blueboy
I’d just like to tell the prof that some of us are voting how we are not so much based on the fact that we love Trump, it’s that we are disgusted by the other side. To me, it’s far more Democratic Party problem than anything to do with Trump.
Posted on 9/11/20 at 7:49 am to JudgeHolden
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K. Show me a code of ethics that isn’t built on man’s arrogance.
Atheist eh?
Posted on 9/11/20 at 7:52 am to JudgeHolden
Absolutely.
People that rape children should be killed.
People that rape children should be killed.
Posted on 9/11/20 at 7:52 am to JudgeHolden
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That said, there were many on this board who saw nothing wrong from a moral perspective with driving over protesters, even if it resulted in their death. Many here have called for a "purge," and it is not uncommon for there to be expressions of violence toward political opponents.
Posted on 9/11/20 at 7:57 am to nes2010
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Atheist eh?
Nope. Judeo-Christian monotheist.
The Holy Bible is replete with men setting up moral codes arrogantly, and God’s punishment in response. See Moses. See Judges and Kings. Hell, read Nathan’s little talk with David.
I don’t mistrust God. I mistrust speaking (or so they say) in His name.
Joel Osteen says he speaks for God. You think his moral code is humble and Spirit-breathed?
Posted on 9/11/20 at 7:59 am to JudgeHolden
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K. Show me a code of ethics that isn’t built on man’s arrogance.
The 10 commandments. How about the golden rule?
This post was edited on 9/11/20 at 8:00 am
Posted on 9/11/20 at 8:00 am to roadGator
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Absolutely.
People that rape children should be killed.
Mark this day down, roadGator. We’ve found a point of agreement.
Kennedy v. Louisiana just infuriates me. The case for capital punishment is strongest when applied to child rapists.
This post was edited on 9/11/20 at 8:01 am
Posted on 9/11/20 at 8:03 am to JudgeHolden
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Joel Osteen says he speaks for God.
What does this have to do with the morality based on God's Law?
Plenty of good people will be lead astray by charlatans and deceivers... Part of the reason they will be lead astray is they rely on what man tells them versus studying God's word for their own understanding...
In other words, a lack of a relationship with God.
Posted on 9/11/20 at 8:04 am to nes2010
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The 10 commandments.
Which not even you take at face value.
I am confident you believe in using lethal force as self defense. Unless you interpret the Commandments using your own view of the world, it is prohibited. “Thou shall not kill” is absolute.
Add to that just a short time after the supposed “no-kill” policy came down from the mountain, God ordered or at least condoned genocide in Canaan.
So don’t tell me that the Bible gives you guidance free of “man’s arrogance.” It isn’t true.
Posted on 9/11/20 at 8:07 am to The Maj
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Part of the reason they will be lead astray is they rely on what man tells them versus studying God's word for their own understanding...
I see. I need to follow my “own understanding” to find a code free from “man’s arrogance.”
That’s a little . . . arrogant.
I get your point and take you seriously. I’ve grappled with scripture my whole life to find meaning, and there is a lot there. But sometimes it’s hard to distinguish God’s will from man’s. Well, really, it always is.
Posted on 9/11/20 at 8:08 am to JudgeHolden
We probably agree about a lot.
Posted on 9/11/20 at 8:09 am to JudgeHolden
So there are codes that were not based off of mans arrogance? That were given by God. If man chooses to not follow them that doesn't mean they were not born from God. Glad you agree you were wrong.
Posted on 9/11/20 at 8:11 am to nes2010
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Glad you agree you were wrong.
Nope.
But when we all get to heaven, and what a day of rejoicing that will be, when we all see Jesus and are singing and shouting the victory
Well, I guess we will find out then.
You post is pretty dumb, by the way. God gave you a mind.
Posted on 9/11/20 at 8:13 am to JudgeHolden
So God did not give us the 10 commandment? They come from mans arrogance?
Posted on 9/11/20 at 8:16 am to blueboy
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Loomis responded by saying, “He killed a fascist. I see nothing wrong with it, at least from a moral perspective.”
What’s ironic is that he undoubted supports the Marxist movement. To be a political extremist requires one to be completely and utterly disconnected from the hypocrisy of one’s beliefs.
Posted on 9/11/20 at 8:19 am to nes2010
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So God did not give us the 10 commandment? They come from mans arrogance?
Already responded to this one, chief.
Posted on 9/11/20 at 8:25 am to JudgeHolden
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That’s a little . . . arrogant.
No it is not... One's personal relationship with God is directly related to the time one spends studying God's Word, praying, and worshipping God...
It gives a person the ability to see through the charlatans and deceivers in their path that would seek to harm their relationship with God OR profit from their faith...
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But sometimes it’s hard to distinguish God’s will from man’s.
Stop trying to find your own meaning and pray for God to give you understanding. Your arrogance makes you think you can find understanding of God's Word without the help of God... The problem is always our inability as man to relinquish control to God...
Posted on 9/11/20 at 8:26 am to JudgeHolden
Yes you agree that they come from God. Glad we could make that clear. What about the golden rule? Jesus gave us that one right? Do you feel it comes from mans arrogance?
Posted on 9/11/20 at 8:27 am to JudgeHolden
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I am confident you believe in using lethal force as self defense. Unless you interpret the Commandments using your own view of the world, it is prohibited. “Thou shall not kill” is absolute.
You're confidence in the belief of lethal force as self defense would be correct. However, you're wrong in your interpretation of the commandment. The commandment is accurately translated as "thou shall not murder". Huge difference that not many people understand because they don't understand the Hebrew language. I'm not saying I do, but the Hebrew word for kill (harag) is not the word used in the commandment. Rather, the Hebrew word for murder (ratzah) is.
There is a huge difference in kill vs murder. Killing is taking a life with justification while murder is taking a life with no justification. Some may consider it a fine line, but there is a difference. The difference is found within the intent of the heart and the use of deadly force is a matter of motive, intent, and justification. If someone attacks me and/or my family and I respond by eliminating the threat and they threat were to die as a result of those actions, justifiable self-defense, or I would have killed that person. If I was to walk up behind a political opponent and shoot them in the back of the head because they're beliefs are different than mine, that's murder. I don't care what the professor here says, there is no justification in the taking of another's life just because they don't agree with you. No matter how bad the disagreement and how right or wrong one side may be.
I've done a lot of research on this subject. I'd recommend you do the same.
This post was edited on 9/11/20 at 8:31 am
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