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re: Private Schools Should be Privately Funded

Posted on 1/24/17 at 6:32 am to
Posted by Oddibe
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Posted on 1/24/17 at 6:32 am to
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I'm with you. I also have questions about the separation of church and state on this as well since lots of southern private schools are religious.
I need some clarification, It's ok for the government to take taxes from christians to fund abortions but it's not ok to take taxes from atheists to fund Christian schools?
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61973 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 6:38 am to
We have public money going to private companies for food...for housing...etc.

The money goes into the hands of the taxpayer. If the taxpayer chooses to use it on private schooling, who is harmed?
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 1/24/17 at 6:40 am to
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Look no further than the public/private split with the LHSAA.
every time this issue comes up, I say "these are the people educating our kids"

And we can't directly hold these principals accountable.

Clearly something will fall out from so many public school principals having Democrat ideals in a Republican state
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:06 am to
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Please do tell me why in the hell is it my obligation to support someone else besides my own family. Are you retarded or something? I already know the answer to that question. You freaks are really mentally insane to even remotely think that someone HAS an obligation to support some garbage like a public school system. If it weren't for theft by taxation I can PROMISE you if I could avoid giving a penny to public school systems I'd do so in a millisecond. You freaks need some serious help.
You said all this in response to someone telling you that you have to pay taxes.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
28602 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:23 am to
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You don't like it? Tough shite. The unfortunate thing about it is that I still have to pay school board taxes that fund complete garbage public school systems that I have no use for.



What's "tough shite" for you is the obvious fact that, for whatever reason, you're stuck with only about three functioning brain cells. You have no use for the public school system? Are you really this stupid? No, let me rephrase that. Are you really that fricking stupid? So you have no use for anyone in this society who has to depend on public education...from fast food employees, to construction workers, to law enforcement, doctors, lawyers, etc., etc., etc. fricking etc.?

You really have to be one special kind of stupid to believe that you have no obligation to help fund the public school system.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
28602 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:26 am to
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If it weren't for theft by taxation I can PROMISE you if I could avoid giving a penny to public school systems I'd do so in a millisecond. You freaks need some serious help.



How about the government makes a deal with you. You never pay one cent of property taxes, ever again, for the rest of your life.

In return, you have zero access to any service provided by anyone who is the product of public education.

Like I said, you are truly a special kind of stupid.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
28602 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:31 am to
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More services should and need to be privatized and taken from the government all together. The government has their F'N hands in way too much crap already. And once the government gets involved everything goes to crap. See the post office for a prime example.
I send my kids to private school for a better education and a much better environment. That's my money and I'll spend it how I see fit. You don't like it? Tough shite. The unfortunate thing about it is that I still have to pay school board taxes that fund complete garbage public school systems that I have no use for.


Judging from the writing skills demonstrated here, I'm guessing that the private "school" he sends his kids to is one of those fly-by-night "Christian" schools meeting in some church building somewhere.
Posted by BigEdLSU
All around the south
Member since Sep 2010
20360 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:33 am to
Why quote the word Christian when harping on puntuation?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295818 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:48 am to
You need actual debating skills. You're just flinging insults
This post was edited on 1/24/17 at 10:49 am
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
28602 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:49 am to
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Why quote the word Christian when harping on puntuation?



It really has to be explained to you? Please tell me that you're educated enough to understand why, from a punctuation standpoint, my use of quotation marks there is appropriate.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
28602 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:51 am to
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You need actual debating skills. You're just flinging insults


I'm sorry...I though this was a message board, not a forensics competition.
Posted by BigEdLSU
All around the south
Member since Sep 2010
20360 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:55 am to
The way you type it out implies that you don't consider them real schools or real Christians. I was trying to give you an out but back yourself into a corner by all means.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:57 am to
Can someone point to a private school that the public has the financial responsibility for?

Is there a private school that taxpayers have to cough up money for if it comes up short?????

I don't know of one.

There are literally thousands of government schools that are mismanaged and taxpayers have to fund the incompetence.
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 11:00 am to
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The right, understandably, has grown tired of this, and they are in a pickle with this because the only way to fix this problem ethically is to somehow convince America to give LESS to our children. Our children, dammit. Our children.



Teachers are already underpaid. Ths is having a negative effect on education. You want to have less money in the school, which invariably will affect teacher salary, because it is ethical? Ok. Maybe yu should be more willing to pay for things that benefit us all, like having an educated society, abd stop being an isolationiat pos
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125328 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 11:06 am to
If public school teachers really believed in the importance of public education and if they really believed they could drastically impact the education of their students, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

Public school teachers have been conditioned to believe they can't really impact a student's education. And for the most part, students perform where their socioeconomic status predicts they will perform.

You could shut down every school in Detroit, have the students take YouTube classes and achieve a better result. Until our unions admit there is a problem that is not related to the amount of salary their members are receiving, we are at an impasse.

And as long as we are at an impasse, school choice will continue to resonate with the consumers of public education.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125328 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 11:07 am to
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Teachers are already underpaid.


This simply isn't true across the board.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295818 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 11:08 am to
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Teachers are already underpaid


So untrue. Some? Probably. All? Nope
This post was edited on 1/24/17 at 11:09 am
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125328 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 11:09 am to
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So untrue? Some? Probably. All? Nope


And the ones who are underpaid are underpaid because of the structure of the CBA the unions signed "in their best interests."
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
15725 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 11:10 am to
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Private Schools Should be Privately Funded


quote:

publicly funded charter schools



I believe you're talking about two different things, at least in Louisiana.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125328 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 11:14 am to
I'm going to elucidate on this.

In Missouri, public school teachers have the best retirement system in maybe the nation. 29% of their salary is deposited into the MO fund.

If they teach in an underprivileged area, they can have their student loans forgiven within 5 years.

They have 9 month contracts. In St. Louis county, the average teacher will start in the $40s. By the time they retire, they will be making around $70k-$80k.

It's a very comfortable living, if they will stick with it.
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