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Prior to the Raid
Posted on 8/13/22 at 5:31 pm
Posted on 8/13/22 at 5:31 pm
Here’s an interesting article from The NY Times stating that when the government visited MAL in June one of Trump’s attorneys signed an affidavit stating all documents marked as confidential had been returned. The receipt of what was taken shows several items mentioned as being marked classified. There are folks who have wondered why the government did the raid when they had access to the files in June. This would show the documents they took on Monday are different than what they had ever been shown before.
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Posted on 8/13/22 at 5:32 pm to LSU2ALA
No it means the attorney is in deep shite. If true. And it’s not the clients fault.
Posted on 8/13/22 at 5:33 pm to LSU2ALA
Is there any proof of that?
Posted on 8/13/22 at 5:34 pm to LSU2ALA
I’m sure the DOJ will release that affidavit. So if they don’t that’s all bullshite
Posted on 8/13/22 at 5:35 pm to TigerAttorney
Have a feeling they are looking for documents that may pertain to that Clinton lawsuit Trump filed about Russiagate. The FBI has always been team sweep for the Democrats, and this sounds like more of the same
Posted on 8/13/22 at 5:36 pm to LSU2ALA
Do they know whether the documents taken on Monday were there the day before?
Posted on 8/13/22 at 5:42 pm to LSU2ALA
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Posted on 8/13/22 at 5:43 pm to TigerAttorney
Not if there’s a legit discrepancy in what the parties deemed classified or non-classified information. If that affidavit was signed in good faith by the attorney who in that moment believed any material they retained wasn’t covered by the regulations at issue, well then the necessary intent isn’t there. It could very simply come down to a dispute over what was still classified with no Presidential “privilege” having been asserted, and what wasn’t.
Posted on 8/13/22 at 5:45 pm to davyjones
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Not if there’s a legit discrepancy in what the parties deemed classified or non-classified information. If that affidavit was signed in good faith by the attorney who in that moment believed any material they retained wasn’t covered by the regulations at issue, well then the necessary intent isn’t there. It could very simply come down to a dispute over what was still classified with no Presidential “privilege” having been asserted, and what wasn’t.
And we are back to whether it was declassified. I believe it’s another leak to change the ever evolving narrative to take the attention off what they did and another means to justify. Nobody’s buying the nuclear bullshite.
Posted on 8/13/22 at 5:47 pm to davyjones
This is the answer. It boils down to a dispute over declassification authorities. And the Progtards miscalculated. The case may go to the SCOTUS but Trump will win this fight.
Posted on 8/13/22 at 5:52 pm to FlySaint
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This is the answer. It boils down to a dispute over declassification authorities. And the Progtards miscalculated. The case may go to the SCOTUS but Trump will win this fight.
That is what will be interesting. Did they write it up as all documents that are classified or all documents marked as classified as there is, potentially, a very big difference.
Posted on 8/13/22 at 5:54 pm to TigerAttorney
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No it means the attorney is in deep shite. If true. And it’s not the clients fault.
If you mean the attorney went rogue and signed that without getting Trump’s go ahead, then I agree he or she would be in big trouble indeed.
Posted on 8/13/22 at 5:55 pm to FlySaint
I think they’ll quietly hope it just goes away, while at the same time leaking bits and pieces here and there. Which will be yet more fail on their part. They have steadily gotten worse at this since the Mueller investigation. I think they got caught up in a tug of war between certain parties that wanted this and didn’t want that, and the AG guy simply folded like a cheap suit and said to hell with it, just satiate the idiots around him and deal with it later.
When the left does something that appears to be completely moronic, that’s because it is precisely that. There ain’t no evil clever plan to it.
When the left does something that appears to be completely moronic, that’s because it is precisely that. There ain’t no evil clever plan to it.
Posted on 8/13/22 at 5:57 pm to LSU2ALA
You still missed him again.
Posted on 8/13/22 at 5:57 pm to TigerAttorney
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the attorney is in deep shite.
If the case, what would, could, should happen? I’m your expert opinion
Posted on 8/13/22 at 5:57 pm to LSU2ALA
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If you mean the attorney went rogue and signed that without getting Trump’s go ahead, then I agree he or she would be in big trouble indeed
I can assure you, with a federal subpoena, his team of attorneys have inventory of everything that was in that locked room. They aren’t just leaving potentially incriminating evidence sitting there and not know it. We are back at declassification. If Trump said it was declassified who can say it wasn’t when it occurred during his presidency and he is the absolute authority on declassification?. That’s where the issue is.
Posted on 8/13/22 at 5:59 pm to LSU2ALA
The entire batch of Crossfire Hurricane and related documents were declassified in bulk. Nobody thousands of individual documents and stamps them declassified.
I wonder how many classified documents Obama has in his big old beach house?
I wonder how many classified documents Obama has in his big old beach house?
Posted on 8/13/22 at 6:01 pm to BigMob
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You still missed him again.
I haven’t missed anything. I have already said I don’t expect anything to come of this simply because the statutes cited on the warrant, as I understand them, require criminal intent. I think it’s going to be really hard to prove that Trump was intending to obstruct justice and the like. Now, if this story is correct and his attorney affirmed there was nothing else marked classified and the attorney testifies he was instructed to do so by Trump and was not doing it on his own, HUGE IF, then this becomes murkier.
Posted on 8/13/22 at 6:01 pm to TigerAttorney
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I believe it’s another leak to change the ever evolving narrative to take the attention off what they did and another means to justify. Nobody’s buying the nuclear bullshite.
We will have endless leaks until 2024 and probably after.
Posted on 8/13/22 at 6:06 pm to TigerAttorney
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I can assure you, with a federal subpoena, his team of attorneys have inventory of everything that was in that locked room. They aren’t just leaving potentially incriminating evidence sitting there and not know it. We are back at declassification. If Trump said it was declassified who can say it wasn’t when it occurred during his presidency and he is the absolute authority on declassification?. That’s where the issue is.
Those are good points. There are two potential issues I can see. First, if the affidavit stated there were no more documents MARKED as classified then that can be different as to whether or not they are classified and be something different that is being attested to. The reporting by the Times states the affidavit says there were no more documents marked classified, and we no there were by the receipt the FBI left behind.
Secondly, there was some early reporting that some of these documents they took were found in his office and his bedroom. We have no verification if that’s true, but it does show they looked many places besides that storage room.
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