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re: President Trump Will Fully Pardon Dinesh D'Souza
Posted on 5/31/18 at 10:43 am to Decatur
Posted on 5/31/18 at 10:43 am to Decatur
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When the FBI opened its investigation into the Marc Rich pardon it cited the failure to follow DOJ rules and regulations as part of the justification.
Okay. Where was Marc Rich reincarcerated?
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Posted on 5/31/18 at 10:44 am to Decatur
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Gotta keep that pardon pen warm.
Damn straight bitch....deal with it, more to come...melt away punk
Posted on 5/31/18 at 10:45 am to Decatur
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the Marc Rich pardon
I don't know about guidelines but everything about Rich's pardon was unsavory. Money went to hillay's senatorial campaign, money went to bill's library and money went in eric holder's back pocket.
Plus it was signed as Clinton was walking out of the WH for the last time.
Media didn't raise an eyebrow.
Posted on 5/31/18 at 10:45 am to Y.A. Tittle
His point is the pardon power is broad but not unlimited. It's like the President's appointment power. He has full authority to appoint whoever he likes but certain improprieties could render it open to investigation (a bribe or say, trading false testimony for a political favor). Hard to prove, of course. ;)
Posted on 5/31/18 at 10:47 am to Erin Go Bragh
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I don't know about guidelines but everything about Rich's pardon was unsavory. Money went to hillay's senatorial campaign, money went to bill's library and money went in eric holder's back pocket.
Plus it was signed as Clinton was walking out of the WH for the last time.
Media didn't raise an eyebrow.
It was as slimy as you could possibly get, but it was still tough shite. That's our system. Don't like it? Propose a constitutional amendment and push it through.
Posted on 5/31/18 at 10:47 am to Y.A. Tittle
Just showing you were I was going with the comment. You asked.
Posted on 5/31/18 at 10:48 am to TigerDoc
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His point is the pardon power is broad but not unlimited.
Show me where it's ever been limited.
Posted on 5/31/18 at 10:48 am to Decatur
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Just showing you were I was going with the comment. You asked.
I know. I appreciate it.
Posted on 5/31/18 at 10:49 am to CFBFAN1121
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The very same people cheering this pardon will be the very same people claiming Trump is a law and order President.
I'm absolutely positive that the administration knows more details than you...so gfy
Posted on 5/31/18 at 10:51 am to CFBFAN1121
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Exactly. And exactly why should his crimes be ignored?
I would guess because he was threatened with worse
Posted on 5/31/18 at 10:51 am to Y.A. Tittle
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Don't like it?
I've never questioned the power of the executive to issue pardons. Not even when I believe it to be undeserving.
Purchasing a pardon from snakes like the clintons and having the deal brokered by another reptile, Holder, can leave you shaking your head.
Posted on 5/31/18 at 10:52 am to Y.A. Tittle
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Pardon power of a president is about as absolute as anything that exists in our form of government.
Sure, but there are oversights Congress can put on it and still pass Constitutional muster. In most cases, past Presidents followed the general procedure out of principle, so it really wasn't an issue.
Clinton's pardon of Rich was certainly problematic. The pardoning of Arpaio, Libby, and D'Souza are equally problematic as they all appear to be politically motivated, among other reasons.
Posted on 5/31/18 at 10:52 am to CFBFAN1121
quote:Is pardon power not part of existing law?
The very same people cheering this pardon will be the very same people claiming Trump is a law and order President.
Just checking...........
Posted on 5/31/18 at 10:53 am to Erin Go Bragh
Agreed.
In an elective republic, the best thing that a pardon like that can do is open your eyes to who those you elect really are. Funny thing is, many of the people bemoaning this still voted for Hillary and still adore Bill.
In an elective republic, the best thing that a pardon like that can do is open your eyes to who those you elect really are. Funny thing is, many of the people bemoaning this still voted for Hillary and still adore Bill.
Posted on 5/31/18 at 10:54 am to The Spleen
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Clinton's pardon of Rich was certainly problematic. The pardoning of Arpaio, Libby, and D'Souza are equally problematic as they all appear to be politically motivated, among other reasons.
Well yeah. They're politically motivated.
As are a crap ton if not the majority of Presidential pardons.
I mean, the only way to stop that would be to repeal the pardon power.
That said. If a President literally sold a pardon for personal favor, I also suspect THAT could be impeachable given that congress has no actual impeachment limitations.
This is why most of the truly controversial pardons happen as the door hits them in the arse.
Posted on 5/31/18 at 10:54 am to mmmmmbeeer
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The guy thinks he's king.
Slow melts are the best..keep it simmering....and just watch us MAGA
Posted on 5/31/18 at 11:00 am to The Spleen
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Clinton's pardon of Rich was certainly problematic. The pardoning of Arpaio, Libby, and D'Souza are equally problematic as they all appear to be politically motivated, among other reasons.
I really don’t have problem with Trump’s pardons thus far as it relates to the people he pardoned. My suspicion though is that he is laying the groundwork for pardons of folks who could testify adversely to his interests.
Dude is obsessed with the Russia investigation and it’s apparent from the public statements by his attorney that he is feeling exposed.
Posted on 5/31/18 at 11:01 am to The Spleen
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The pardoning of Arpaio, Libby, and D'Souza are equally problematic as they all appear to be politically motivated, among other reasons.
Going after them was political as well.
After all of these pages of people complaining about Trump doing this.....
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Dinesh D'Souza Retweeted
Debbie D'Souza
? @Debber66
36m36 minutes ago
I want to thank @realDonaldTrump for giving my husband a pardon but I particularly want to thank @SenTedCruz for putting it on his radar and helping make it happen! So grateful! #DineshDsouzaPardon
LionTed was the one that got the ball rolling. I suppose he doesn't know anything about the law either.
Posted on 5/31/18 at 11:02 am to Decatur
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Gotta keep that pardon pen warm.
Posted on 5/31/18 at 11:04 am to junkfunky
None of that surprises me.
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