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re: President Donald Trump doesn’t know if he should uphold the constitution.

Posted on 5/5/25 at 5:08 am to
Posted by Mandtgr47
Member since Aug 2024
7918 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 5:08 am to
quote:

I don’t know how you can spin this.


well your media was able to spin it on you to make you think there are grave circumstances. Your former President literally defied the Supreme Court and in fact, the politicians from your side actually put the Supreme Court in danger in doxing them.

There is something called common sense, which I know, your party does not practice....but common sense says these thugs must be deported, and that every single thug deported makes the U.S. a little more safer for someone.
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
16036 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 5:35 am to
Biden wiped his arse with it for 4 years and directly defied Supreme court rulings, and now you stupid fricks get your little pussies in a frenzy because Trump said “I don’t know”?

I guess that was (D)ifferent?

There will be another civil war in this country.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135783 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 5:37 am to
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don’t know how you can spin this.
Yet, that's exactly what you've done.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
30635 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 5:51 am to
What part isn't he upholding?
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
112859 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 6:42 am to
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No court, not even the Supremes, can tell the Exec who he has to issue security clearances to

Roberts understands that Trump will ignore him under Article II, and theres not a damn thing Roberts can do about it. Plus, the Congress will likely pass legislation that says the courts cannot intervene in X, Y or Z which is rooted in Article II (troop movements, war powers, cabinet nominations, warrants on illegal crossings, security clearances, forced hirings, etc)

Roberts will not allow that shame and rebuke to define his court


Pretty much this.

Roberts cares about the Court's reputation and authority. He's serving up Trump (or any president) openly ignoring/defying SCOTUS rulings if he doesn't unfrick this.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467695 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 7:02 am to
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He's serving up Trump (or any president) openly ignoring/defying SCOTUS rulings if he doesn't unfrick this.

That won't end well for Trump
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
112859 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 7:05 am to
quote:

quote:
He's serving up Trump (or any president) openly ignoring/defying SCOTUS rulings if he doesn't unfrick this.

That won't end well for Trump


His favorite president is Andrew Jackson. He's not concerned.

The President takes and oath to support and defend the Constitution, not to support and defend the Constitution as the SCOTUS interprets it.
Posted by BozemanTiger
Member since Jul 2020
4529 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 7:07 am to
quote:

Odysseus32


That you can breathe on your own, is a miracle.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467695 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 7:09 am to
quote:

His favorite president is Andrew Jackson. He's not concerned.

He'll probably care about the impeachment-removal or, at the least, the electoral losses that would result, I reckon.

quote:

The President takes and oath to support and defend the Constitution, not to support and defend the Constitution as the SCOTUS interprets it.

This is the rhetoric of authoritarianism, which is why invalidating, attacking, and often replacing the courts is pretty universal in authoritarian takeovers.

I'm not arguing Trump is a dictator, to clarify for the smoothbrains. I'm pointing out you're arguing he should start being one.
This post was edited on 5/5/25 at 7:10 am
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135783 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 7:09 am to
quote:

hat won't end well for Trump

"That"?

We now start with false assumptions, then built hypos on that foundation?
Posted by Stonehenge
Wakulla Springs
Member since Dec 2014
2605 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 7:10 am to
He needs to save this country from himself
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135783 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 7:20 am to
quote:

He needs to save this country from himself


He should have never paid those whores to pee on Obama's bed in Moscow.
He should have never teamed up with Putin in 2016.
He should have never called our dead soldiers suckers and losers.
He should have never promoted Hunter's laptop (aka Russian disinfo) as truth.
He should have never said he doesn’t know if he should uphold the constitution.

Please Lord, save us from all these things Trump should have never done,


Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467695 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 7:20 am to
quote:

"That"?

We now start with false assumptions, then built hypos on that foundation?

Yeah he made a post and I replied to "that"
Posted by redneck hippie
Oklahoma
Member since Dec 2008
6300 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 7:21 am to
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The President takes and oath to support and defend the Constitution, not to support and defend the Constitution as the SCOTUS interprets it.


Trump said in his interview with MTP and Time Magazine this past week he would follow whatever the Supreme Court says.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467695 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 7:22 am to
quote:


Trump said in his interview with MTP and Time Magazine this past week he would follow whatever the Supreme Court says.

Yeah he's not dumb.

His followers just want him to be, for some reason.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135783 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 7:23 am to
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Yeah he made a post and I replied to "that"
You responded as if "that" were fact. You went so far as to say "this won't end well for Trump." But the "this" you referenced is total bullshite.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467695 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 7:27 am to
quote:

You responded as if "that" were fact.

No. I responded to his post as if it were his post, which it was.

quote:

You went so far as to say "this won't end well for Trump."

No. I said THAT won't end well for Trump.

That = the post. As I told you already

quote:

Yeah he made a post and I replied to "that"


quote:

But the "this" you referenced is total bullshite.

I didn't say "this", first of all

And if you think his post is bullshite, you can freely reply to it yourself
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135783 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 7:54 am to
quote:

He's serving up Trump (or any president) openly ignoring/defying SCOTUS rulings if he doesn't unfrick this.
As SFP backed away from any claim of facts backing this assertion (a message resides there), I'll ask you ... if Trump "doesn't unfrick" what?
Posted by FoTownBam
Foley Al
Member since Oct 2023
4184 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 8:11 am to
I’m not sure what exactly you’re referring to, but if it’s the fact that Trump is considering ignoring some low level leftist district judges’ orders, then what in the frick does any of that have to do with the constitution ? I don’t believe any of these district “justices” had anything to do with writing the constitution. Instead of trying to give us some gotcha moment, why don’t you tell us what exactly you oppose that Trump is doing? You want the MS13 guy back in the country?
Posted by UFMatt
Proud again to be an American
Member since Oct 2010
12839 posts
Posted on 5/5/25 at 8:13 am to
3 independent branches as defined by the Constitution. A some point one of the branches may have to exercise their authority regardless of the views of the other 2. This may be that time in history. We are truly in a constitutional crisis brought about by traitors and enemies of the state. Radical unelected judges should not have the power to stop the Executive branch from exercising their duties under the Constitution.
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