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re: Poverty does not increase (violent) crime (Video)

Posted on 5/7/17 at 10:13 am to
Posted by Dale51
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Posted on 5/7/17 at 10:13 am to
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Poverty does not increase (violent) crime (Video)

Maybe violent crime increases poverty.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/7/17 at 11:27 am to
i think it certainly decreases the chance of investment and economic development of an area
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 5/7/17 at 11:30 am to
a soul food/bbq place opened recently in the ole hometown and is located in a pretty white/suburban part of town. yet they felt the need to hire a security guard to be there everyday just because of their past experiences in the old locale. the cost of running a business in the hood and dealing with theft and violence would deter any reasonable person.
Posted by buckeye_vol
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Posted on 5/7/17 at 11:34 am to
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Maybe violent crime increases poverty.
there is probably a feedback loop with each other.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/7/17 at 11:40 am to
it's just like the stereotypical ghetto convenience store

they're now villains b/c they "gouge" poor people and only serve bad food

a. they have high prices b/c it's costly to operate within a population more likely to cause damage, rob the store, and steal from the store. the alternative is the store closes and moves to another area, then there is no service

b. they sell the products that their clients buy. again, they could sell more nutritious food...and they'd go out of business and then there is no store for that area. anyone who has ever been to one of these stores sees the marketing towards the local population ("tobacco" paraphernalia, mix tapes, hair products, etc). these immigrants aren't just promoting some insidious plan to kill poor people

there come points where i honestly don't know what SJWs want civilized society to do for the underclass. they admit the population doesn't make good decisions and blames the non-underclass for this exploitation, but they scoff at any attempt to regulate their behaviors. so they promote the freedom for this population to err, understand they're more likely to make sub-optimal decisions, and then blames everyone else for these decisions that they know will happen

the ultimate irony is that they also attack gentrification. they complain over and over about a lack of investment and development, and then when it comes, it's not people promoting the underclass culture doing it and the underclass culture (which involves all these terrible externalities like health and crime issues) goes away and the surrounding property values increase....and it's this terrible thing

you literally cannot win
This post was edited on 5/7/17 at 11:42 am
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 5/7/17 at 11:43 am to
i enjoy the "food desert" outcry. how well do SJWs believe a whole foods would do in the hood?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/7/17 at 11:47 am to
i mean i will get on board with the sugar subsidies bullshite and how that's making people fat (esp the poor). but yeah "food desserts" are reactions to their market. again, we can't criticize the underclass for making the poor decisions we all expect, so it's the fault of the non-underclass outsiders. they've literally set up an impossible argument
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 5/7/17 at 11:49 am to
even at nice stores with plenty of healthy options they opt for horrible food. i shopped at the rouses on bertand in laffy through four years of undergrad and i could spot an EBT cart like no one's business. off brand colas and juices, microwave dinners, candy and chips in bulk, little debby snacks, etc.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/7/17 at 11:51 am to
it would be an interesting study to set up a few markets in underclass areas and sell the healthy food at super cheap prices (compared to their market prices) and see if that even affects the choices of the populations
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 5/7/17 at 11:53 am to
healthy food privilege
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 5/7/17 at 11:53 am to
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i enjoy the "food desert" outcry. how well do SJWs believe a whole foods would do in the hood?


The other cause of food desserts is that urban grocery stores suffer very large losses in theft. It's not a high margin market to begin with, 1-3%.
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 5/7/17 at 11:56 am to
oh, for sure. meat departments get raided by yutes in heavy coats.
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