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re: Pope Francis infection is presenting a "complex, clinical picture" according to Vatican
Posted on 2/23/25 at 2:45 am to Squirrelmeister
Posted on 2/23/25 at 2:45 am to Squirrelmeister
The Pope is infected with permanent dumbazz for which there is no cure.
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Posted on 2/23/25 at 7:01 am to Cool McCool
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Not now. He had a "respiratory crisis". Pope Francis is in critical condition after a long respiratory crisis, requiring oxygen at high flow
That makes it sound like he’s on a ventilator. The article also mentions clotting. I suspect at this point he’s in a coma and it’s only a matter of time.
Posted on 2/23/25 at 7:15 am to Free888
False Prophet. Communist pos.
The catholic church enabled and profited off the invasion of this country.
Frick the Catholic church
The catholic church enabled and profited off the invasion of this country.
Frick the Catholic church
This post was edited on 2/23/25 at 7:16 am
Posted on 2/23/25 at 8:36 am to Duffnshank
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Catholics built their so called church on,
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Something to consider.
No it not.
That’s something Satan uses to deny the work of the Holy Spirit and create doubt just like when he said to Eve “Surely you will not die” when referring to eating of the tree is knowledge.
Posted on 2/23/25 at 8:38 am to Free888
quote:While your take pleases and excites me, you might want to tap the brakes a bit.
I suspect at this point he’s in a coma and it’s only a matter of time.
Posted on 2/23/25 at 9:28 am to Snipe
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Satan… just like when he said to Eve “Surely you will not die” when referring to eating of the tree is knowledge
Stop it. There’s no Satan in Genesis 3. No mention at all of “a” Satan or “the” Satan.
If you take it literally, it is literally a snake, and is a fable of how the snake lost its legs. The snake literally tells the truth.
What Yahweh Elohim says is going to happen to Adam if he eats the fruit doesn’t happen. You can say God lied, God changed his mind, or God had mercy on them. But what God said did not come to fulfillment. You can debate God lied for a good reason, but the consensus of scholars of the character of Yahweh Elohim in that story is that he lied.
On the other hand, what the snake said would happen did happen. Adam and Eve became like gods knowing good and evil. Then Yahweh Elohim said just that, confirming what the snake said was accurate.
If you look deeper into it, the fictional mythical account of Genesis 3 was at least partly about the consolidation of worship of only Yahweh in the temple in Jerusalem - probably after the return of the exiles during the Persian period. It was about the Levitical priests being demoted, and a discontinuation of worship of two of the Israelites gods.
1. Nehushtan - snake god of healing that they worshipped in the temple and made up a phony excuse that Moses built the original graven image of a snake because Yahweh commanded him to do so to heal snake bites of fiery angel snakes that Yahweh himself caused.
2. Asherah - she was the mother goddess and wife of El and later wife of Yahweh that was worshipped in the temple in Jerusalem. She was sometimes known as Wisdom, or the Tree of Knowledge. She was represented as a tree, and said to be the Tree of Life. Bible authors and editors in the Persian period inserted a bunch of stories about how some kings worshipped Asherah, but other good kings like Josiah cut down all the Asherah trees including within the temple.
That “Satan” was really the snake in Genesis 3 was a later Christian apologetic fabrication. Not even Jewish people believe that the serpent was Satan.
Posted on 2/23/25 at 11:35 am to Squirrelmeister
I will definitely pray for you. May the mercy of God find you and save you.
Posted on 2/23/25 at 12:26 pm to Snipe
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I will definitely pray for you. May the mercy of God find you and save you.
I would rather not encounter the “mercy” of Yahweh and end up like two sons of the first high priest.
Snipe everything I said is true and you can verify it by simply picking up a bible and a decent history book.
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Your Bible is literally telling you the Jews worshipped Asherah and Nehushtan in the temple in Jerusalem. But we also know this is true from archaeological evidence.
2 Kings 18
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1In the third year of Hoshea son of Elah, king of Israel, Hezekiah the son of Ahaz, king of Judah, began to reign. 2He was twenty-five years old when he began to reign, and he reigned twenty-nine years in Jerusalem. His mother’s name was Abi the daughter of Zechariah. 3And he did what was right in the eyes of the LORD, according to all that David his father had done. 4He removed the high places and broke the pillars and cut down the Asherah. And he broke in pieces the bronze serpent that Moses had made, for until those days the people of Israel had made offerings to it (it was called Nehushtan)
And other groups of Canaanites besides Israel worshipped Nehushtan too.
2 Samuel 10:2
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And David said, “I will show kindness to Hanun son of Nahash, just as his father showed kindness to me.” So David sent some of his servants to console Hanun concerning his father. But when they arrived in the land of the Ammonites,
And just as the messiahs of Israel were the son of Yahweh, the kings of other Canaanite tribes were the sons of their patron deities such as son of Hadad, son of Nahash, son of Qos, etc.
Guess what the serpent in Genesis 3 was called in Hebrew….
“Nahash”.
Look it up.
I don’t doubt it sucks to find out your deeply held beliefs are completely made up by man and passed down through gullible men. But knowing and understanding your reality is much better (in my opinion) than taking the blue pill.
This post was edited on 2/23/25 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 2/23/25 at 12:49 pm to Squirrelmeister
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Stop it. There’s no Satan in Genesis 3. No mention at all of “a” Satan or “the” Satan.
Squirrel, you are a pagan. Nothing you have ever said is based in truth or reality.
Posted on 2/23/25 at 1:07 pm to Furious
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Squirrel, you are a pagan. Nothing you have ever said is based in truth or reality.
The Snake in the Garden: Serpent or Satan?
Pick up a book, and open your eyes.
Posted on 2/23/25 at 10:53 pm to Squirrelmeister
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Now that we have learned a great deal more through paleontology, geology, and genetics, and have thoroughly tested the hypothesis, all the best data overwhelming shows that evolution from a common ancestor is a fact.
You keep using that word, fact. I do not think it means what you think it means.
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This is no longer debated amongst legitimate scientists (excluding looney nut jobs who get credentialed just to be the 0.1% of “scientists” who “debate” the issue).
Nice qualifier. No bias there.
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the theory of biological evolution of species is the most understood body of evidence and facts about anything in the natural world. It’s the foundation of modern medicine. No dogma
I would argue that dogma is the means through which this evidence is understood. Materialism is dogma, for example. Materialism is the dogmatic set of principles through which reality must be understood.
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The Yazidis have been keeping a calendar much longer than 6000 years, and their calendar was unharmed by “Noah’s flood”
I had to look this one up. Pretty interesting story, but it looks like Yazidism is just a syncretic version of Christianity and other religions.
worldhistory.org
Yazidism is a syncretic, monotheistic religion practiced by the Yazidis, an ethnoreligious group which resides primarily in northern Iraq, northern Syria, and southeastern Turkey. Yazidism is considered by its adherents to be the oldest religion in the world and the first truly monotheistic faith
That’s a serious claim.
The Yazidi calendar states that the religion, as well as the universe, is almost 7,000 years old
That’s interesting. Where have we heard that before? I bet they have a better origin story than Christianity…
The Origins of Yazidism
Almost nothing is recorded about the history of the first Yazidis.
Fooey.
There is substantial evidence for the emergence of aspects of Yazidism from Christianity, as certain Yazidi rituals are derived from Christian traditions, such as baptism and the consumption of alcohol.
The Yazidis were first recorded historically by Muslim historian 'Abd al-Karim al-Sam'ani (d. 1167 CE)
in the early 12th century CE, the arrival of one man in the Kurdish Mountains would change the fate of the Kurds forever, the man who is credited by scholars and Yazidis as the founder of Yazidism itself: Sheikh 'Adi.
Looks like another counterfeit to me. It is pretty interesting to read about though. Thanks.
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Exodus 32. Let me help you out though. The Israelites make golden images - idols - to be used to worship Yahweh, and have a feast in honor of Yahweh,
You can’t be serious.
7Then the Lord spoke to Moses, “Go down at once, for your people, whom you brought up from the land of Egypt, have corrupted themselves. 8“They have quickly turned aside from the way which I commanded them. They have made for themselves a molten calf, and have worshiped it and have sacrificed to it and said, ‘This is your god, O Israel, who brought you up from the land of Egypt!’ ” 9The Lord said to Moses, “I have seen this people, and behold, they are an obstinate people..
This, of course, is in response to verse 1:
Now when the people saw that Moses delayed to come down from the mountain, the people assembled about Aaron and said to him, “Come, make us a god who will go before us; as for this Moses, the man who brought us up from the land of Egypt, we do not know what has become of him.”
Seems pretty clear to me. Now let me help you out. Aside from the insufficiency of scientific atheism to provide any objective standard by which to judge morality, have you ever tried to see things from the Father’s perspective? I know that my methods of disciplining my own children have evolved in relation to their development, as they should. I see the same thing in the Bible. Did you know that God forgives ignorance?
Acts 17:30
Therefore having overlooked the times of ignorance, God is now declaring to men that all people everywhere should repent,
and
Romans 3:25
whom God displayed publicly as a propitiation in His blood through faith. This was to demonstrate His righteousness, because in the forbearance of God He passed over the sins previously committed;
If you look at all of humanity as though it were a single entity, then it makes sense that discipline would develop in relation to humanity. It also makes sense when you consider that you’re complaining about the “Old Covenant.” We’re not under the old covenant. We’re under the New Covenant. I get that you’re arguing that God’s treatment of His own creation should be identical from start to finish, and should match today’s accepted standards. I’m saying that’s like arguing that you should treat a child and an adult exactly the same.
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I’ve seen the apologist tactic of the pie, and it is irrelevant and a poor argument. “So you don’t know everything there is to know, aha! So in that knowable knowledge you don’t know that’s where you can find Jesus!” Not interested.
I think it’s relevant when you make truth claims about any particular subject. I’m not asking you to know everything for me to believe anything you say. Though I do think that logically you would have to know everything in order to substantiate some of your claims as fact.
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Just reference Numbers 31.
God ordered Moses to wipe out the Midianites. They were a problem.
1Then the Lord spoke to Moses, saying, 2“Take full vengeance for the sons of Israel on the Midianites; afterward you will be gathered to your people.”
What happened?
7So they made war against Midian, just as the Lord had commanded Moses, and they killed every male.
Huh. That’s not what God said to do.
9The sons of Israel captured the women of Midian and their little ones; and all their cattle and all their flocks and all their goods they plundered.
Nope. Not ordered by God. Decided by men. What’s the big deal?
14Moses was angry with the officers of the army, the captains of thousands and the captains of hundreds, who had come from service in the war. 15And Moses said to them, “Have you spared all the women? 16“Behold, these caused the sons of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to trespass against the Lord in the matter of Peor, so the plague was among the congregation of the Lord.
Why would Moses be angry if they were doing what God told them to do?
How do you know that God didn’t save humanity by wiping out the Midianites? How do you know that every one of them wasn’t a baby Hitler?
What if we actually traced hitlers genealogy back to a spared midianite woman? 
You guys complain about the existence of evil, and then complain when God judiciously removed some of it from humanity. :lol:
Posted on 2/24/25 at 8:15 am to Prodigal Son
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You keep using that word, fact. I do not think it means what you think it means.
Biological evolution from a common ancestor isn’t a wildass guess, a presumption, or a hypothesis…
Facts don’t care about your feelings PS. You can rationalize it by saying “God did it” (that’s where those “intelligent design” proponents come from) but nevertheless it is a fact.
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I had to look this one up. Pretty interesting story, but it looks like Yazidism is just a syncretic version of Christianity and other religions.
Yazidism is a mishmash of all kinds of shite but its roots are in an old Persian religion before the official form of Zoroastrianism took hold. “Yazdan” means “God” in ancient Persian. The Yazidis over the years adopted many elements of Zoroastrianism and then some elements of Christianity and of Islam. None of that was my point. My point was they have an unbroken calendar that goes back to before the world was created (using the Hebrew Bible and backtracking the genealogies) and it was unaffected by “Noah’s global flood” which is just a myth with its roots in the real (local) flood of Shuruppak.
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Seems pretty clear to me. Now let me help you out
You glossed over or didn’t understand what I wrote. You mentioned something about God’s love of his children and justice. I then wrote about the time God killed 3000 of his children with the sword and then murdered an undisclosed amount with a plague because they broke the first commandment concerning graven images that he hadn’t yet given them as a commandment. Killing his children for not confirming to a rule that they didn’t even know about? That’s not loving, nor just.
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I think it’s relevant when you make truth claims about any particular subject. I’m not asking you to know everything for me to believe anything you say. Though I do think that logically you would have to know everything in order to substantiate some of your claims as fact.
I’ve got to know everything about everything to know that fact that if I drop a soccer ball it’s going to fall down to the ground?
It is possible to know some things without knowing everything.
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Why would Moses be angry if they were doing what God told them to do? How do you know that God didn’t save humanity by wiping out the Midianites?
It sounds like you have no choice but to agree with me that Numbers 31 includes kidnap, rape, and murder of young virgin girls. But now you are trying to laughable argue what if those young girls was baby Hitler. I don’t find it funny. Stuff that into your objective morality basket. I think you know that your “objective morality standards” argument has been b.s. this whole time. If rape, kidnap, and murder is sometimes “good” then it isn’t always objectively “bad”, therefore the Bible offers no objective standard on the subject.
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You guys complain about the existence of evil, and then complain when God judiciously removed some of it from humanity.
My primary complaint is of hypocrisy and cognitive dissonance on the part of Bible thumpers.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 5:27 pm to blueboy
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While your take pleases and excites me, you might want to tap the brakes a bit.
They’re mentioning kidney issues now. A close friend who was twenty years younger just went through this exact scenario and didn’t make it.
Posted on 2/24/25 at 11:30 pm to Squirrelmeister
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Biological evolution from a common ancestor isn’t a wildass guess, a presumption, or a hypothesis…
I know. It’s the current scientific paradigm, based on the inference to the best explanation, which begins with an unfalsifiable assumption about what must have occurred in the past, based on a biased interpretation of the evidence in the present- and is held in place by threatening the careers of anyone who dares to question this “settled science.” You really should watch Expelled.
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Yazidism is a mishmash of all kinds of shite but its roots are in an old Persian religion before the official form of Zoroastrianism took hold
Indeed. It’s like the Piccadilly of religions.
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My point was they have an unbroken calendar that goes back to before the world was created (using the Hebrew Bible and backtracking the genealogies) and it was unaffected by “Noah’s global flood” which is just a myth with its roots in the real (local) flood of Shuruppak.
And you believe that?
It’s amazing how selective your skepticism is. The earliest mention of Yazidism is 680-683 AD. I doubt they have in their possession a 7000 year old calendar. It survived the flood because it didn’t exist yet. I could see some merit to the idea that the origin of it predates the Abrahamic religions though. There was a period of over 2000 years from Adam to Abraham. Genesis 4:26 says that after Enosh was born, “Then men began to call upon the name of the Lord.” That was 235 years after God created Adam and Eve, but roughly 1800 years before Yahweh would make His covenant with Abraham. With over 1000 years from the flood to Abraham, there’s plenty of time and reason for false religions to sprout up and spread.
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I then wrote about the time God killed 3000 of his children with the sword and then murdered
This?
27He said to them, “Thus says the Lord, the God of Israel, ‘Every man of you put his sword upon his thigh, and go back and forth from gate to gate in the camp, and kill every man his brother, and every man his friend, and every man his neighbor.’ ” 28So the sons of Levi did as Moses instructed, and about three thousand men of the people fell that day.
The two prior verses…
25Now when Moses saw that the people were out of control—for Aaron had let them get out of control to be a derision among their enemies— 26then Moses stood in the gate of the camp, and said, “Whoever is for the Lord, come to me!” And all the sons of Levi gathered together to him.
Moses. Called out to everyone. Only the Levites responded.
These 3000 men were detrimental to the operation. Have you never had to do addition by subtraction? Have you never had to separate a problem child from a group?
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Killing his children for not confirming to a rule that they didn’t even know about?
They knew. Just like we all know. We are born with the knowledge of good and evil. Not only had they just been miraculously delivered from slavery, and miraculously sustained in the wilderness, but they were fully aware of the covenant that Yahweh made with Abraham (and his descendants- which they were) some 400 years prior. These were not innocent people caught unaware by an angry, vindictive God. These 3000 men were a cancer.
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That’s not loving, nor just.
Roman’s 10:4
4For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.
I just had to throw that in there for context, and beauty. To your point, love and justice are necessary for discipline, and discipline is necessary for maturity and growth. Methods of discipline change with the development of the person being disciplined.
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It sounds like you have no choice but to agree with me that Numbers 31 includes kidnap, rape, and murder of young virgin girls.
No. I agree with you that God instructed Moses to “take full vengeance” on Midian. Nothing else. There’s no mention of kidnap, rape or murder. This was a battle. To the victor goes the spoils. At least, that’s how it was in those days. You’re reading things into the text that aren’t there.
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But now you are trying to laughable argue what if those young girls was baby Hitler
You’re twisting my words. I don’t know where you get this idea that they were murdering little girls/ it’s nowhere in the text. To the contrary-
18“But all the girls who have not known man intimately, spare for yourselves.
How do you know that this didn’t greatly improve their lives? What if the midianites were a bunch of child molesting wife beaters?
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I don’t find it funny. Stuff that into your objective morality basket.
Geez. Why so serious?
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I think you know that your “objective morality standards” argument has been b.s. this whole time.
You think you know a lot of things. You use the word fact like a 12 yr old girl uses the word love.
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If rape, kidnap, and murder is sometimes “good” then it isn’t always objectively “bad”, therefore the Bible offers no objective standard on the subject.
Well if you could show me a single instance of God condoning rape, kidnap and murder, I’d be obliged to rethink my stance. But you haven’t. All you’ve done is isolate and twist the text to fit your preferred narrative.
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