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re: Pope Francis infection is presenting a "complex, clinical picture" according to Vatican
Posted on 2/18/25 at 7:38 am to RollTide1987
Posted on 2/18/25 at 7:38 am to RollTide1987
I hope nothing happens to Pedo Pope.
JK frick him
JK frick him
Posted on 2/18/25 at 8:08 am to EZE Tiger Fan
I pray for our Holy Father nightly. At this point, he should probably bow out early like Benedict, and allow someone else to take the reigns.
Posted on 2/18/25 at 10:06 am to DVA Tailgater
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I pray for our Holy Father nightly. At this point, he should probably bow out early like Benedict, and allow someone else to take the reigns.
Likely not gonna happen.
Posted on 2/18/25 at 9:49 pm to FooManChoo
So there’s a story about what “Jesus” said is necessary to inherit eternal life…
Let’s see if “Jesus” gave a response similar to what you always spout on here…
Let’s keep reading to see if “Jesus” and you are in alignment on the requirements for salvation…
Hmm I can’t find anything in there matching up with your nonsense Foo. It seems you’re a cherry-picking fool who’d rather subscribe to the teachings of a guy who many in the oldest churches considered a false apostle and a heretic (and a greedy money grubbing thief) who we can all admit never met the “alive Jesus on earth during his ministry”.
P.S. in verse 19 “Jesus” says he is not god, destroying your mystery of the Trinity concept.
P.S. none of this shite ever happened - in reality. And Jesus is a fictitious character.
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18And a ruler asked him, “Good Teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?”
Let’s see if “Jesus” gave a response similar to what you always spout on here…
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by faith alone in Christ alone by God's grace alone, apart from works,
Let’s keep reading to see if “Jesus” and you are in alignment on the requirements for salvation…
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19And Jesus said to him, “Why do you call me good? No one is good except God alone. 20You know the commandments: ‘Do not commit adultery, Do not murder, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Honor your father and mother.’” 21And he said, “All these I have kept from my youth.” 22When Jesus heard this, he said to him, “One thing you still lack. Sell all that you have and distribute to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me.” 23But when he heard these things, he became very sad, for he was extremely rich. 24Jesus, seeing that he had become sad, said, “How difficult it is for those who have wealth to enter the kingdom of God! 25For it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the kingdom of God.” 26Those who heard it said, “Then who can be saved?” 27But he said, “What is impossible with man is possible with God.” 28And Peter said, “See, we have left our homes and followed you.” 29And he said to them, “Truly, I say to you, there is no one who has left house or wife or brothersb or parents or children, for the sake of the kingdom of God, 30who will not receive many times more in this time, and in the age to come eternal life.”
Hmm I can’t find anything in there matching up with your nonsense Foo. It seems you’re a cherry-picking fool who’d rather subscribe to the teachings of a guy who many in the oldest churches considered a false apostle and a heretic (and a greedy money grubbing thief) who we can all admit never met the “alive Jesus on earth during his ministry”.
P.S. in verse 19 “Jesus” says he is not god, destroying your mystery of the Trinity concept.
P.S. none of this shite ever happened - in reality. And Jesus is a fictitious character.
Posted on 2/18/25 at 10:36 pm to catholictigerfan
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explain
Snipe is apparently under the impression that there is no Apostolic Succession outside of the Roman Catholic Church. That is incorrect.
Posted on 2/18/25 at 10:47 pm to Warrior Court
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When I read that caption, I thought it said Pepe.
Oh, my. Not Pepe.
We can get another Pope, but, there is only one Pepe.
Posted on 2/18/25 at 10:58 pm to TheHarahanian
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Posted on 2/18/25 at 11:05 pm to FooManChoo
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This is why the historical, biblical hermeneutic is to use Scripture to interpret Scripture.
Catholic scholars invented biblical hermeneutics. The seminaries and religious universities were doing this centuries before Luther or Calvin were born.
Posted on 2/18/25 at 11:57 pm to Squirrelmeister
Comprehension isn't your forte, eh? Don't answer, it's evidenced by your drivel.
Posted on 2/19/25 at 12:38 am to Champagne
quote:The analogy of faith is a biblical hermeneutic derived from the Bible, itself.
Catholic scholars invented biblical hermeneutics. The seminaries and religious universities were doing this centuries before Luther or Calvin were born.
It really is a shame how Catholics elevate the Church equal to or even above God, Himself.
Posted on 2/19/25 at 12:54 am to FooManChoo
As a person raised as a Catholic, I believe the Satan is about to claim a papal soul.
The Catholic church is full of evil.
The Catholic church is full of evil.
Posted on 2/19/25 at 1:00 am to MrGumshoes
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MrGumshoes
Yeah definitely don’t respond with a lucid thought or an opinion backed up by logic, reason, evidence, and facts. You haven’t shown any signs of cognition. Good job.
Posted on 2/19/25 at 2:00 am to RollTide1987
I know it’s wrong to hope he dies.
It is wrong. I will fight the urge.
It is wrong. I will fight the urge.
Posted on 2/19/25 at 7:13 am to RollTide1987
There is an old saying in the Vatican that there is nothing more dead than a dead pope.
Posted on 2/19/25 at 9:01 am to FooManChoo
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The analogy of faith is a biblical hermeneutic derived from the Bible, itself.
Yes, and the Biblical scholars who preserved, copied, distributed and studied the Bible for about 1,500 years before Luther and Calvin could read were all Catholic and Orthodox monks, priests and scholars. Biblical hermeneutic study of the Bible was invented by theologians centuries before Calvin and Luther were born.
It makes sense, doesn't it? Is it reasonable to believe that serious theological studies, guided by the Holy Spirit, never took place before Calvin and Luther were chosen to tell us the Truth?
Is it reasonable to believe that the Earth and Universe are roughly 6,000 years old? We know that you hold this unreasonable belief.
Your theology is simply not convincing.
Posted on 2/19/25 at 9:03 am to Champagne
I'm going to bow out of this thread now. Roll Tide started it for some strange reason. He should be the one now to argue religion in this thread, since he is the one who started this thread, which, by the way, is not a topic that belongs on Political Talk.
The Pope has a bad chest cold. That's not a Political Talk topic. We have other REAL political topics to talk about. The Pope's cold is not one of them.
Roll Tide: The floor is yours. You started the thread, so, you can carry on the political argument.
The Pope has a bad chest cold. That's not a Political Talk topic. We have other REAL political topics to talk about. The Pope's cold is not one of them.
Roll Tide: The floor is yours. You started the thread, so, you can carry on the political argument.
Posted on 2/19/25 at 10:27 am to Champagne
quote:I disagree with your classification of "Catholic" in that sentence, as if they all believed exactly like the modern RCC teaches. However regardless of that issue, what I'm talking about is a biblical hermeneutic that is derived from the Bible, not created out of thin air by scholars without any association with the Bible.
Yes, and the Biblical scholars who preserved, copied, distributed and studied the Bible for about 1,500 years before Luther and Calvin could read were all Catholic and Orthodox monks, priests and scholars.
quote:Yes. Like I said, the "analogy of faith" hermeneutic is a principle that is derived from the Bible, not from Calvin or Luther.
Biblical hermeneutic study of the Bible was invented by theologians centuries before Calvin and Luther were born.
As an aside: I don't understand why you keep referencing those guys. It's almost as if you don't understand Protestantism.
quote:Catholics don't use the "analogy of faith" primarily, though. Interpreting the Bible by the Bible is something that Protestants are generally bound by, but not the RCC. The RCC interprets the Bible by itself, but also by oral tradition and the Magisterium. It's why anyone without a prior belief in the Marian dogmas can read the Bible and not see those dogmas there, or papal infallibility, for instance. Simply interpreting the Bible according to itself will not result in many beliefs and practices that Rome adheres to and enforces today, so your statement is irrelevant.
It makes sense, doesn't it? Is it reasonable to believe that serious theological studies, guided by the Holy Spirit, never took place before Calvin and Luther were chosen to tell us the Truth?
quote:It's quite reasonable for someone who uses the Bible to interpret the Bible. Even the RCC accepts that it's a valid view to hold and that even many of the faithful going back 2,000 years had this understanding. While Rome can lean towards an old earth view, they do not teach that a young earth view is "unreasonable", only that it doesn't seem to fit the scientific evidence, according to their understanding.
Is it reasonable to believe that the Earth and Universe are roughly 6,000 years old? We know that you hold this unreasonable belief.
This is exactly what I mean about the analogy of faith, though. You want to take credit for that hermeneutic while ignoring it in favor of other things, such as interpretation according tradition, church dogma, and even secular scientific pursuit. Perhaps you shouldn't be so eager to take credit for something that you go out of your way to not use.
quote:Ditto. The Bible is my ultimate guide, not fallen men.
Your theology is simply not convincing.
Posted on 2/19/25 at 2:36 pm to Champagne
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Your theology is simply not convincing.
The reason you cannot convince each other of anything and the reason I can’t convince you of any objective Truth of our reality is that you are all closed-minded and are unable to seriously ponder anything that conflicts with your own dogma, and you only use the Bible to support your own dogma and presuppositions.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 10:31 pm to Squirrelmeister
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The reason you cannot convince each other of anything and the reason I can’t convince you of any objective Truth of our reality is that you are all closed-minded and are unable to seriously ponder anything that conflicts with your own dogma, and you only use the Bible to support your own dogma and presuppositions.
Pot… meet kettle.
Posted on 2/21/25 at 7:07 am to Prodigal Son
Hey PS,
I think you agree with my statement, and I hope Champagne acknowledges as I have come to find out that there is no amount of evidence, facts, logic, or reason that will convince the other side.
It would be like trying to convince a purple haired college educated democrat that illegal immigration, restrictive gun laws, out of control spending, and censorship are bad.
This is where you are wrong, though I realize there’s no way to convince you.
I’m an open minded person and I have no dogma. There is nothing I need to believe. I only believe what I do because I have a very good understanding of the natural world due to my scientific education and my own research, and I have thoroughly studied the Bibles (different English translations, different Greek and hebrew/aramaic manuscripts, Masoretic text, texts receptors, Septuagint, Dead Sea scrolls) and I’ve studied ancient history from the Egyptian new kingdom period through the Bronze Age collapse to the establishment of Israel to the Assyrian invasion, Babylonian invasion, Persian resettlement of Judah, Greek and Roman periods, all the way to the council of Constantinople. I had no dogma going in… the Truth was going to be whatever I could piece together was my actual reality, whether I liked it or not.
The difference between my presuppositions and yours (and Champagne’s and Foo’s) is that my presuppositions get tested and if the evidence disproves my presuppositions, then they no longer continue to be a presupposition. On the other hand, you guys have a presupposition (for instance, the Bible is the inerrant word of God) that you cannot personally test because you cannot seriously test it because you NEED that presupposition to be be true.
I think you agree with my statement, and I hope Champagne acknowledges as I have come to find out that there is no amount of evidence, facts, logic, or reason that will convince the other side.
It would be like trying to convince a purple haired college educated democrat that illegal immigration, restrictive gun laws, out of control spending, and censorship are bad.
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Pot… meet kettle.
This is where you are wrong, though I realize there’s no way to convince you.
I’m an open minded person and I have no dogma. There is nothing I need to believe. I only believe what I do because I have a very good understanding of the natural world due to my scientific education and my own research, and I have thoroughly studied the Bibles (different English translations, different Greek and hebrew/aramaic manuscripts, Masoretic text, texts receptors, Septuagint, Dead Sea scrolls) and I’ve studied ancient history from the Egyptian new kingdom period through the Bronze Age collapse to the establishment of Israel to the Assyrian invasion, Babylonian invasion, Persian resettlement of Judah, Greek and Roman periods, all the way to the council of Constantinople. I had no dogma going in… the Truth was going to be whatever I could piece together was my actual reality, whether I liked it or not.
The difference between my presuppositions and yours (and Champagne’s and Foo’s) is that my presuppositions get tested and if the evidence disproves my presuppositions, then they no longer continue to be a presupposition. On the other hand, you guys have a presupposition (for instance, the Bible is the inerrant word of God) that you cannot personally test because you cannot seriously test it because you NEED that presupposition to be be true.
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