re: Pope cut penalties for pedophile priests including letting two off with a prayer

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but it proves that the catholic priesthood was being run to almost be a safe harbor for pedophiles

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"pedophiles" - that word actually means something, you know, and it doesn't include people who abuse 14 year olds. Those people are vile as well for abusing their power, for sexualizing young men before they are ready for it mentally, etc etc etc (and its particularly vile from people who are supposed to be moral and spiritual guides), but it's a fundamentally different thing than the kind of sickos that prey on pre-pubescent children.
That difference explains why non-monstrous people did things like move Priests around instead of whatever you think you would have done in the situation.


The Church heirarchy is currently infested to an unknown extent with sexually perverted men. It's a huge problem for Catholics to deal with. We need to root them out.
But it's got very little to do with you bunch of Church haters who wouldn't have Western Civilization at all without the Church whose oldest traditions you pretend to be informed enough to judge.


#militantcatholic

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I don't buy this. The priesthood is not overloaded with pedophile small. It has about the same occurrence as protestant clergy who can get married.

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Link?

Have some on here not learned yet that everything...yes everything is decided politically...let me take you back to the basics(remember how Lombardi started every camp...He held up a football in one hand and said."This is a football!"...true story)
And Plato said in his republic,"There are only two things in life...contemplation and politics!" For the intellectually challenge like dgd901, this was his way of saying that once you leave the friendly confines of your mind, you enter the arena of politics...and I therefore say, there is thought and actions...but squirts only hide out in their mom's basement or attic...luckily I don't have to deal with squirts except when I live rent free in dgd901's head

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Whatever keeps you motivated to throw that money in the collection plate every week .

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I hadn't pegged you for such thoughtlessness.

Everybody has their weak points, I guess.

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I'm sick of people making excuses for the Catholic Church and their systematic sexual abuse of children, and their endless cover- up. If that's a weak point, I'll gladly take it.

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Children, huh?
Dumb

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don't think Jesus would approve of shuffling priests around to different parishes rather than banning them outright.

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I agree.

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When a divorced person is less worthy of full communion than a pedophile.

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What makes you think that?

12 is young even by less modern standards. It doesn't surprise me, though, that a gay priest would try to sexualize a 12 year old boy who had gone through puberty.
As Milo, said, that sort of thing is not uncommon in the gay community.

Beyond wanting to fight against the calumny involved in calling the Church a pedophile ring, when the reality is that for the most part this was gay priests preying on teenagers, I think that calling abuse of post-pubescent people "pedophilia" has the perverse effect of normalizing all pedophilia in the subconscious of the public. We need to reserve a special word for the kind of sickness that leads a person to seek sexual contact with little kids. Conflating them with people who feel biologically sensible attraction to reproductive age "children" is bad. Can't you see that?
It's not been very long since we allowed people to marry young teenagers. Can't you see that it's possible we are going to do that again one day? The "must be 18 for sex" norm we hold today is basically the last vestige of prudishness that still exists in the modern West. Why is it even that way now? I know that you as a parent understand why it's a bad idea for young women to engage in sex. But do you realize how large a percentage of adults now don't have children? It would not surprise me at all to see that cultural norm change and society revert to a more biology-based age of consent. When that happens, I don't want actual pedophilia to be "innocent by association" because we've been muddying the meaning of that word.

The Pedophile Priest scandal happened primarily during the liberalized church of the 60's and 70's.

Now, the perfect liberal pope decides to forgive what the liberal church wrought.

Franky seems to have squared the liberal catholic circle.

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The church deserves every word of criticism it gets and then some

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Agree, as long as the words are true.
And they invited the false words too, but that doesn't make the false true.