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re: Popcorn ready: Will MN Nat’l Guard obey order if Waltz orders impede ICE or turn on him
Posted on 1/24/26 at 6:31 pm to Covingtontiger77
Posted on 1/24/26 at 6:31 pm to Covingtontiger77
I don't think Waltz will directly order the MN National Guard to impede ICE.
I do think he will attempt to create a situation that brings the NG into conflict with Federal Law Enforcement.
That is his greatest wish, to see a violent encounter between Federal and State law enforcement.
I do think he will attempt to create a situation that brings the NG into conflict with Federal Law Enforcement.
That is his greatest wish, to see a violent encounter between Federal and State law enforcement.
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Posted on 1/24/26 at 6:47 pm to TriStateAreaFootball
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At this point, I hope not. Would love to see real unrest get quashed by strong Republican leadership. I think it would help us politically in the midterms.
The Guard has JAGs that will review any orders that might contravene federal law. The commanders should not put their troops in a position to receive an unlawful order.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 6:48 pm to lake chuck fan
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That is his greatest wish, to see a violent encounter between Federal and State law enforcement.
That dumb frick doesn't even know how to flush a toilet. He's getting orders from higher ups.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 6:49 pm to LsuNav
The TAG is a Tampon Timmy appointment we will see.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 11:43 pm to Privateer 2007
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I'd venture to bet most combat arms Minnesota national guard are good ole baws from suburbs and rural areas.
Even the urban guys are unlikely to give two craps about illegals. The problem is the officers that were indoctrinated in university. They also probably won't be using 11B, etc., during this. It'd be MP units which may be squishier than combat arms.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 11:52 pm to lake chuck fan
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I don't think Waltz will directly order the MN National Guard to impede ICE.
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Posted on 1/24/26 at 11:55 pm to Covingtontiger77
They'll get staged somewhere and look to be protecting somwthing without really impeding ICE's operations.
It'll be some transportation company.
Bet.
It'll be some transportation company.
Bet.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 1:58 am to Covingtontiger77
If waltz orders Mn National Guard to impede Federal officials, is that a legal order?
Wouldn't Mn National Guardsmen be in trouble to follow an illegal order?
Wouldn't Mn National Guardsmen be in trouble to follow an illegal order?
Posted on 1/25/26 at 6:11 am to Victor R Franko
Minnesota has its own Uniform Code of Military Justice—Chapter 192A of the Minnesota Statutes.
It applies to:
Minnesota National Guard members not on federal active duty
Personnel on state active duty or Title 32 status
Certain civilians accompanying the force in specific circumstances
When Guard members are federally activated (Title 10), they fall under the federal UCMJ, not Minnesota’s.
It applies to:
Minnesota National Guard members not on federal active duty
Personnel on state active duty or Title 32 status
Certain civilians accompanying the force in specific circumstances
When Guard members are federally activated (Title 10), they fall under the federal UCMJ, not Minnesota’s.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 6:27 am to Jbird
Thanks, but doesn't answer the question.
Regardless of under Minnesota code or US code, would an order to impede Federal officials be an illegal order under either code?
Imo, it would be under either code, but I'm just guessing.
Regardless of under Minnesota code or US code, would an order to impede Federal officials be an illegal order under either code?
Imo, it would be under either code, but I'm just guessing.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 6:36 am to Victor R Franko
Interesting question, pretty sure the TAG appointed by Walz will run as close as he can to skirting the law.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 6:39 am to Victor R Franko
I wonder if any of theses NG members would resign before obeying deployment orders they don't like. They could tell the press they are doing a "Tim Walz".
Posted on 1/25/26 at 7:31 am to LemmyLives
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Why aren't they arresting protesters for this?
Because there’s too many of them, so what they should do is arrest the mayor and the governor because they’re the ones promoting it
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