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re: Poll: should Facebook, Twitter, etc be allowed to ban people for political speech?

Posted on 5/13/19 at 7:36 pm to
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
45955 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 7:36 pm to
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Yes, they are private companies and should have that right. Alternatives can and are arising (4Chan, WhatsApp, etc.)


Guess who owns whatsapp. Guess who owns most other social media.

Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63031 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 7:38 pm to
I don't want the government having the power to decide whether Facebook or Twitter can do this.

As much as I recognize the problem, the solution can't be government intervention.

Now, if we can link the wills of political actors to the actions of these corporations, I think that would be criminal on both sides.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63031 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 7:43 pm to
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Of course.

frick 'em

Stringent guidelines and bylaws and rules are the best way to tame unwashed swine. Americans who think the internet is the best place to air their unfiltered political speech are amongst the dirtiest of unwashed swine.

Crack that whip.



...says the guy who admitted to being attracted to underage, VERY YOUNG girls...and who continues to post here despite that.
Posted by FlexDawg
Member since Jan 2018
14497 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 7:54 pm to
A few “conservatives” around here.......
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42270 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 7:58 pm to
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On each of those platforms the user can unfollow/block any user they choose.


And this is the correct answer
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42270 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 8:00 pm to
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but I am wary of government involvement. In another thread a poster pointed out that in time the free market will sort this out though it may not happen quick enough for some. My advice would be to not use their service, encourage others to leave them also and enjoy their downfall when it comes. Liberals may get off on forcing people to do things, like baking queers a cake but us patriotic, conservative Americans are better than they are.


You are very correct and I agree I don’t want government regulating what you can and can’t say. But I do want them stopping people from prohibiting speech and discussion in public forums and public dialogue.
Posted by FlexDawg
Member since Jan 2018
14497 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 8:03 pm to
Besides all of that.....do we want to continue allowing social media giants to collude together to meddle in our elections?
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
45955 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 8:05 pm to
Nah it's all good baw I'll just use another platform that is known for end to end encryption unlike companies like facebook or twitter.

It's called WhatsApp. You should get with the program you stupid boomer.









Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
20055 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 8:09 pm to
Political leaning: Independent.

Yes, they’re private organizations. As long as they don’t single out groups of people based upon protected liberties, then I don’t see a problem.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
45955 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 8:12 pm to
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As long as they don’t single out groups of people based upon protected liberties, then I don’t see a problem.



Well, they kinda are. Which is the whole point of this thread.

Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59463 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 8:13 pm to
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Yes, they’re private organizations. As long as they don’t single out groups of people based upon protected liberties, then I don’t see a problem.


Political affiliation is a protected class in California, New York, and DC.
Posted by FlexDawg
Member since Jan 2018
14497 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 8:14 pm to
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Nah it's all good baw I'll just use another platform that is known for end to end encryption unlike companies like facebook or twitter. It's called WhatsApp. You should get with the program you stupid boomer.


You using another platform doesn’t stop social media from colluding to meddle in our elections.

“Muh private company, switch platforms” argument doesn’t work for that one.

Also Facebook owns whatsapp genius
This post was edited on 5/13/19 at 8:16 pm
Posted by Placebeaux
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Member since Jun 2008
51852 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 8:16 pm to
No

Independent
Posted by CollegeFBRules
Member since Oct 2008
25720 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 8:24 pm to
Sorry the truth doesn’t fit in your little box.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
45955 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 8:27 pm to
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Sorry the truth doesn’t fit in your little box.




Explain the truth. Be specific.

Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59463 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 8:30 pm to
Well, first, political affiliation is a protected class in CA, NY, and DC. Censorship of citizens in those jurisdictions could be problematic.

More importantly, however, is the immunity lost when moving from a platform to a publisher. This exposes them to lots of civil liability.

I don’t think they should be forced to do anything. However, they need to be prepared to deal with the fallout of their censorship.
This post was edited on 5/13/19 at 8:31 pm
Posted by CollegeFBRules
Member since Oct 2008
25720 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 8:31 pm to
Okay, be specific to what your “Ya okay” comment was.
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
23151 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 8:35 pm to


If they are claiming the protections of a carrier then no
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
17294 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 8:36 pm to
What? They operate in Interstate Commerce. If they damage US citizens in any state - they are subject to federal tort laws.

IOW: Sue the bastards. They will modify their behavior if suddenly their discriminatory bullshite gives them basically unlimited tort exposure. There would be open discovery on why, for example, Twitter banned James Woods but not Kathy Griffin. I’m doubt free there were complaints about her nonsense during the Covington deal.

The best congress can do is create a private right of action against these people and courts can decide whether the social media was disingenuous in its excuse for ban on a case by case basis. It’s the only thing that doesn’t involve the cops and speech.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59463 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 8:37 pm to
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What? They operate in Interstate Commerce. If they damage US citizens in any state - they are subject to federal tort laws.


I agree, but political affiliation is not a federally protected class. No federal discrimination tort. Loss of federal civil immunity is a biggie, though.
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