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re: Police are under no obligation to protect you from harm

Posted on 3/20/17 at 6:56 am to
Posted by ShortyRob
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Posted on 3/20/17 at 6:56 am to
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And I have never commented in the San Jose case
oh for fricks sake.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 3/20/17 at 6:57 am to
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That is a distinction with a difference because they are witnessing law being broken
Which is what was being discussed when you chimed in with your protection comment.

Sheesh you're an arse
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 3/20/17 at 7:09 am to
The USSC ruling that is the subject of this thread will be discussed in the in the courtroom in the San Jose case. Do you think it won't?

Should we call the Trump supporters' lawyers and tell them not to worry about this argument because Shorty Rob says it doesn't apply?
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 3/20/17 at 7:14 am to
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They have no obligation to step in when witnessing people getting assaulted?


No. Which is why they rarely stop active shooters or active rioters. They are literally worthless revenue generators and security theater. virtually every role that cops are supposed to fulfill is already done better by normal people with guns.

This post was edited on 3/20/17 at 7:14 am
Posted by Five0
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 3/20/17 at 7:15 am to
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I thought this has been the case for quite some time.


Correct. Riss v New York (1958)
This post was edited on 3/20/17 at 7:23 am
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 3/20/17 at 7:28 am to
Your application of it in the other thread was dead wrong

If they see you being battered they're obligated to enforce the law.
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 3/20/17 at 7:34 am to
My comment was:

quote:

Police are under no obligation to 'protect' people. They are there to enforce law, not be a security force.
Posted by Placebeaux
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Posted on 3/20/17 at 7:36 am to
I love a good double down
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
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Posted on 3/20/17 at 7:37 am to
so is this why they just stand idle at the protests while people get beat up?
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 3/20/17 at 7:39 am to
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The USSC ruling that is the subject of this thread will be discussed in the in the courtroom in the San Jose case. Do you think it won't? Should we call the Trump supporters' lawyers and tell them not to worry about this argument because Shorty Rob says it doesn't apply?
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 3/20/17 at 7:41 am to
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Your application of it in the other thread was dead wrong If they see you being battered they're obligated to enforce the law.

He knows that.

He thinks he's demonstrating how bright he is by pretending that he posted it in the San Jose thread but didn't intend to relate it to the actions taking place in San Jose
Posted by DelU249
Austria
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Posted on 3/20/17 at 8:08 am to
That's true. But again, if they see someone breaking the law (in this case by beating the shite out of people) they are obligated to do something
Posted by Erin Go Bragh
Beyond the Pale
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/20/17 at 8:12 am to
It's almost impossible for the police to protect us from harm. It's not practical to expect them to be on site when crime occurs.

All cops can to is project a presence and investigate after crimes have been committed and hopefully bring the perpetrator to justice.
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 3/20/17 at 8:14 am to
Wat. I posted my exact post from that thread above.

I will ask you again: Do you think this USSC decision will not be discussed in the San Jose case? That this topic won't be discussed?
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 3/20/17 at 8:16 am to
quote:

I will ask you again: Do you think this USSC decision will not be discussed in the San Jose case? That this topic won't be discussed?
Quite obviously, the people who would prefer to not have to pay up will use whatever arguments they might find useful.

Irrelevant.
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
36912 posts
Posted on 3/20/17 at 8:31 am to
I love how not only were you getting roasted in the other thread, but you even included a link to this thread of you get roasted.
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 3/20/17 at 8:33 am to
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I never said they aren't supposed to enforce the law, which can be a distinction with a difference.

People in the other thread started blathering about how protecting people 'was their job.' It isn't.


This doesn't even make sense. the case you cited literally has nothing to do with San Joes. No court would find that police who are standing right there provident security do not have an obligation to protect the people at that event.

Posted by ChexMix
Taste the Deliciousness
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 3/20/17 at 8:35 am to
quote:

Police are under no obligation to 'protect' people



Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 3/20/17 at 8:36 am to
Decals don't override the USSC lad. They have no legal obligation to protect you, or anyone.


This post was edited on 3/20/17 at 8:40 am
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Posted on 3/20/17 at 8:37 am to
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